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I think quite some people are interested in it, once they acknowledge that at least part of the negative image psychedelics have is based on lies. Still, many are cautious and i can fully understand. There are no real reference points. It is something completely new for most people. What does one expect from a strong psychedelic journey? The prospect of taking one feels alien, strange, dangerous...and that's why i think many people err on the side of caution. But i can understand it completely and it's propably better this way. Let them do what they want to do and what feels right.

so to sum up what people have written in this post, people who don't do psychedelics are fearful, do not want to change, wish to maintain limitations or are just not that interested in progressing their knowledge of themselves? They just don't want to do the work?

Perhaps I'm reading too much into it, but I find the general attitude a bit... prejudice, don't you think? Not everyone is the same, not everyone ought to walk the same path. Psychedelics are not for everyone - not just because they are so hard to handle, but because everyone has to find their own way and what works for them. Any other tool, any other path is just as valid as the psychedelic version. Psychedelics might not do it for everyone. Might not even do it for you always. Sure there are these people that you mention but certainly not everyone who chooses not to do psychedelics belongs in that category!

I was referring to people who are interested but still don't take them.

I don’t think DMT is the truth. Sometimes it can be hugely misleading. A lot of what it has to show you is quite the opposite to the truth. DMT can be a big lie at times. It is a trickster. It is lots of things. Sometimes it can even appear to be quite malicious.

The truth is already there, we already have it somewhere, it just needs some figuring it and I think very few of us, if any, will ever get anywhere near finishing working it out.

DMT is just another way of looking at things.


Thank you!

Different people are different. Psychedelic experience is no more worthy than any other method of introspection.

Except that you're more likely to be able to attain great heights with psychedelics in little time with little energy as opposed to the years of training that it may take those same people to master other methods of introspection to start getting as dramatic results. Whether this is a pro or con is relative. As you say, different people are different, so it's all relative. I recall Terrence saying that he stayed with some of the best yogis the world had to offer, but it just never did much for him. Psychedelics from this perspective are highly useful to those whose personalities and lifestyles may not accommodate other methods of introspection. Of course such methods could be just as valuable to different hands.

I personally value psychedelics hugely. They do things for me I can’t see any other methods doing for me. I for instance am not a relaxed person at all, meditation will do nothing for me. I simply can’t truly clear my head for more than a few minutes, no matter how much I try. However what I am saying is that using other methods, whatever they are, or even not bothering at all, is no more relevant than the path I or others here choose to take.

Horses for courses.

Horses for courses indeed. I believe we're on the same page.

There is a quote from a ayahuasquero something along the lines of this: If one wants to be a yaje-drinker, a graduate - that is, a wise person - then one must have the ability to withstand pain and suffering". That's definantly a misquote, but the idea is there. DMT in the various forms I have taken it have shown me such bliss and unity with the essence of existence, but have also shown me the rivers of sorrowful tears shed by all living things in the karmic wheel of life and death. I have been obliterated, I have been trapped in shadow-dimensions, I have been shown the darkest parts of people I love. But all of that is part of Being-ness, all of that is part of the truth.

For me, having a relationship with DMT is a bit like having a pet gorilla! It's gentle, smart, sweet; and yet has the power to totally destroy me if it wanted. A healthy respect is necessary with all psychedelics, but I feel DMT especially.

-What i mean here is that DMT is something very personal, and specific to you, and where you are in the universe. It's free from the media, government, and all that jazz. It's of no fault of the DMT if your head's full of programming from society and all that jazz, just don't expect DMT to thank you for it, coz it's likely to tell you something very different, something more honest.

In regards to freebase-dmt a huge turn-off for me is the white powder that looks like cocaine and the elaborate weird methods that you have to use to smoke it right. I'm afraid of the darker parts of my unconscious and ofcourse i'm a little anxious about the intensity. There are other methods of consumptions but i still don't think i'm in the right mindstate right now to face the truth.

>Classic!!!!! .. and TRUE.

-I guess it can be hard for people's egos to accept the truth that they have accepted a mediocre life instead of a powerful energising one. Life, it ain't meant to be easy, it's meant to be fun and stimulating, not relaxation spread thin. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!

Some people like to get drunk some people don't. Some people like to get high on weed, some people don't. Some people like psychedelics, some people don't.
We're just different.