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hpsiequalsepsi
#1 Posted : 1/26/2012 5:44:56 AM
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Greetings,

I was here a few years ago under a different name. I attempted to sign in, couldn't remember my password, and then had it sent to my email. I have no idea what email I used, so I can't get back on under that name...

ANYWAY....

I've tried to do some searching on this topic, but I wasn't really able to find anything (maybe you can?) Here is my question (as a chemistry student and 'veteran' extractor):

The first step of an A/B extraction is adding an acid, let's say aqueous acetic acid, to MHRB, for example. This is usually performed with heat to allow greater dissolution of the compound(s) of interest into the water. Now, what if this solution was filtered and then, devoid of any (solid) plant material, was heated at a low temperature until the water was pretty much gone (without burning any solids)?

This should leave (probably a mess of) DMT-acetate and whatever plant tannins there are.

Now, basification/nonpolar extraction could be performed with relatively small quantities of chemicals, no? I just think it'd be easier to work with a few grams of material than a gallon or two of the acid-dmt-water mixture.



Do you think that too much of the DMT would decompose during the water evaporation? It's bp is much higher than that of water, so it's pretty much a simple distillation of the water from the solute, no? Can you see what could possibly be wrong with this procedure?

Thanks for any input.

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Spacehippie
#2 Posted : 1/26/2012 2:42:07 PM

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You can boil it down to a manageable amount.It won't hurt a thing.I have been using the herbal percolator the last two extractions I did and always have an excess of liquid.I always boil down to a manageable amount that is easy to work with.
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benzyme
#3 Posted : 1/26/2012 3:51:30 PM

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dmt will not decompose, it will just evaporate at its boiling point. boiling off much of the acidic aqueous phase is acceptable
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