hello all, thanks for taking an interest in my thread.

i'll explain a couple of things before i explain what this thread is about.

firstly, i developed a method for using the GVG, it may not be a new method, so feel free to link info to this method existing prior to this thread.
it doesn't have to be used with a GVG either, i just developed it using my GVG.

*mozambique drill* - also called failure to stop drill or failure drill.
i decided to name it this, because when i decided to name it, i thought of a spooks episode (bbc series), where the main antagonist was some dude who killed in this manner, 2 in the chest, 1 in the head. once i vaguely remembered this ep, i named my method the "russian method" because they love russians on spooks so i thought perhaps this antagonist was russian and his style of assassination was also traditional of russian spies, i was disappointed to find out it had a different name, and it wasn't even called method but drill, i'm still attached to the name russian method.

so as (2 in the chest, 1 in the head) would suggest, this method is about inhaling twice in one airway and once in another airway, so lets think about different airways... this method consists of step 1 - first, using the GVG normally until a nice amount of vapour is trapped within the body of the GVG.
second, the GVG is slightly tilted to the left and the head is slightly tilted to the right, one hand holds the GVG and places the end into the left nostril, the other hand blocks the right nostril with a finger, inhale slowly for a few seconds.
step 2 - repeat step 1 on the opposite nostril, tilting GVG to the right/head the the left, etc...
step 3 - inhale the leftover vapour with the mouth.
hold in vapour for as long as you can...

so far i have only used this method with weed and not dmt, as i have not had any dmt in my possession since owning my GVG.

reasons for using this method - i have found that when GVGing weed, making the vapour too thick and trying to inhale too much can make even chronic cigarette smokers cough, as a non-smoker it often made me cough if i tried to bite off more than i could chew. with this method, i can take in a large amount of vapour without coughing.
using this method, the nose can feel a bit sensitive, and can induce sneezing, so be prepared for this, i have never sneezed so far, but this could potentially waste a hit, it feels kind of cool though.

another reason is that the nose can absorb more of your desired compound and people often exhale through the nose for this reason, people will often insufflate compounds for this reason also, so this method is like vapour insufflation.

some reasons against using this method - this method is not as visually pleasing, as you cannot watch the vapour swirl around inside the GVG body like you can with normal oral inhalation.

also, if you share your GVG with others, they might not want to inhale out of something that's been placed in your nose, so you may need to clean it more regularly than you would like to.

that's basically it, please feel free to add more to this, and i would really love feedback.

thanks again dmt-nexus, and thank you for recommending the GVG, i am in love with mine and cannot wait to use it for dmt.

How much DMT are you planning on putting in your GVG?

IME, 40-50mg can be easily cleared in one inhalation rapidly, and will provide a very intense trip indeed without being a burden on the airways.Many feel that anything over 30-35mg is more than sufficient as a dose and this should be no problem to achieve in one breath for most.

I think the method you describe would work, but if used repeatedly could well cause a rhinitis, plus your method slows down the rate at which the vapour enters the lungs.

DMT vapor is alot smoother than that of cannabis, and the dosage is significantly lower than one would take of cannabis to get the desired results.Also much of the vapor of either would just find its way to the lungs rather than being mainly absorbed across the nasal mucosa.

if and when i am in possession of dmt, i will probably start around 30mg and work my way up (if needed) until i find the right breakthrough dose.

perhaps this method is not needed for dmt, that is fine, i find it works well with weed though.

can you tell me more about the risks of rhinitis? how much use could cause this? why would this method cause rhinitis?

is the slowed rate of vapour entering the lungs a problem for dmt and/or weed?

for single use weed i'll put in around 40-70mg of weed, and take about 3-5 hits total then discard.

Rhinitis means inflammation of the nose (inner aspect) and can be caused by substances as innocuous as pollens (hayfever), atmospheric pollution , certian medications and ,in some people, many vapours/fumes etc.The vapour from DMT is not unduly hot but repeated exposure of the nasal mucosa to it could cause nasal stuffiness, sneezing and increased mucus production as the nasal lining is not meant to be exposed to such irritant things too often.

IME, and Im sure most would agree, the way to get maximum effect from any given weight of DMT is to vaporise optimally (easy with a GVG) plus getting the dose into the lungs as quickly as possible.If you've not tried DMT in your GVG as yet, I would suggest that you start at 25mg, aiming to get it in in one breath.Work your way up from there if need be.

I would strongly advise using a metal disc as the 'bed' for your DMT in the GVGs bowl as this, IMO, makes vaporisation nigh on perfect.Copper or medium weight steel wool both work, but copper doesnt give a taste whereas steel sometimes does.

i've read much info on here about using a gvg for dmt, and i have chore boy copper scrubbers, and thanks for the advice i will start at 25mg, though it could be months or even a year or 2 before i am able to try it...

as far as the prognosis goes, how bad would rhinitis be if it were caused by weed vapour?
at the moment i've been doing it nightly for the past week, so in total around 20 nasal inhalations of vapour, as 1 dose of weed equals around 3-5 hits, and i will use the mozambique method for around 3 of them.

is there a risk of permanent damage? i dont really ever suffer from allergies or hayfever, though i have semi-regular blocked nasal cavities.

Im afraid I can't give you a firm answer to these questions, but I suspect that the severity of symptoms will vary between individuals and will also relate, in part, to how often the nasal passages are exposed to such vapours.In tobacco smokers (not via the nasal route) who get a rhinitis due to the tobacco smoke often find that stopping smoking can help ease the nasal symptoms somewhat. I think if your nasal cavities tend to get blocked anyway, then your Mozambique technique is not going to do you any favours.

thanks for all the feedback corpus, i will take this on board.

i think i will still use this method, but not so frequently, and i'll be aware of what goes on in that region from now on, so far i haven't experienced any detrimental effects from this method, and if anything my nose has been free from blockages since using this method.

i would love any and all feedback for anyone else reading this, thanks in advance.

putting your GVG up your nose is silly

I really always take only single inhalation from a single dose. As I really wouldn't want to be inhaling another dose while being "half there". With proper temperature and screen, it's easy.

like i said it doesn't have to be for dmt and i realise that this is not needed for dmt, it's about weed only now.

i dont see how placing it slightly into my nose is silly, many people use the nose as a route of administration, plus inhaling with the nose is an integral part of many breathing techniques, i'm trying to do yoga breathing and every few breaths i add weed vapour to the inhalation, until the dose has finished, then i do some more yoga breathing, and stretching.

i meant no harm from my statement, i was just being silly, it was only a joke.

i was hoping that you would see it is a little silly, because it clearly is

haha yeah it is a little silly, i guess that's why i got defensive about it, i wasn't trying to start an argument or anything.

hey its no probs, i always find its a little tricky to get across your real meaning on forums unless you know each other (well, i find it is for me anyway)

i remember trying to take a pull of a ciggy through my nose at school, it wasnt pleasant, i didnt do it again

i got peer-pressured into having a cone of 100% cigarette tobacco in a bong once by my mate and ex boss, i will certainly never do that again, disgusting.