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Parshvik Chintan
#1 Posted : 1/19/2012 6:54:34 AM

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i could only find erowid's morning glory dosage.
whats a good conservative (only 100 seed total) dose for testing the waters?
i was thinking maybe 25-30 seeds?
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gory dkalz
#2 Posted : 1/19/2012 11:32:11 AM

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I think it all depends on how fresh your seeds are. I only tried them once and I took all 113 I had and only got a very mild headspace change. Not even any vasoconstriction and morning glories KILL my legs. Yet I've read if you get them right off the plant you only need 10-20 seeds.

So if you want to play it safe then stick with 25-30 but I would say your seeds have been sitting on a shelf at least a couple months.
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Parshvik Chintan
#3 Posted : 1/19/2012 1:30:18 PM

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gory dkalz wrote:
I think it all depends on how fresh your seeds are. I only tried them once and I took all 113 I had and only got a very mild headspace change. Not even any vasoconstriction and morning glories KILL my legs. Yet I've read if you get them right off the plant you only need 10-20 seeds.

So if you want to play it safe then stick with 25-30 but I would say your seeds have been sitting on a shelf at least a couple months.

well then if i dont feel any off that dose, i will save the rest of the seeds for propogation Smile
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#4 Posted : 1/19/2012 8:22:58 PM

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I've had mild effects from 10 seeds, I've had mild effects from 60 seeds. I do think part of the trick is proper preparation, I usually powder them, let them soak in some cool acidified water for AT LEAST a few hours in the dark and then drink the lot; my major failures were when I skimped on any part of that procedure. I've heard letting them sit a day is best, but I haven't been able to do that.

As much as I would love to try really fresh ololiuqui, if you're looking to explore LSA I've found HBWR to be a more reliable source of the magic if you're ordering online. I say "the magic" because that's what is missing from old seeds-- old seeds may still give you a bad drunk feeling, but fresh seeds can take you for a hell of an entheogenic ride. Though of course with HBWR, make sure to scrape off the coating, and don't go above 12 seeds unless you're really experienced with them!

One recommendation I have, even with ololiuqui, is that you have some weed on hand to smoke in case you start feeling generally ill. It'll take the unpleasant side of things away in an instant!
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#5 Posted : 1/19/2012 9:30:12 PM

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^^ I second that Banana.

For dosage you are pretty spot on. Try about 30. I usually gel cap them, but an acidified solution will probably work better. If you have some piperine(black pepper) on hand, i would recommend taking that with your seeds. It definitely increases the absorbtion.

You will def. want some cannabis on hand, cuz it will take any stomach irritation right away. Your muscles may get a little tight, but just stretch them out, it will feel awesome. If you smoke a little cannabis, it will help with side effects. But if you smoke a lot, then get ready for a wild ride! Very happy
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