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Imagine
#1 Posted : 1/16/2012 2:23:08 AM

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Anybody else feel as if they are lonely? I mean the nexus keeps me sane knowing there are others out there like me, but I find it rare to even come across a decent person to have an intellectual talk with nowadays. How do you all deal with this loneliness? It's especially hard for somebody like me who's only eighteen years old to come across anybody my age that shares the same interests. I'm just dying to meet somebody with the same interests/insight as i have.. maybe even just one person who i can connect with, but no matter how hard i try and talk with people it seems as if they have no idea what I'm getting at... this frustrates me.. Any tips my fellow nexians could give me?
 

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#2 Posted : 1/16/2012 2:53:34 AM

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Imagine wrote:
seems as if they have no idea what I'm getting at... this frustrates me..

If you are having trouble finding people you should start by looking. Start traveling. If you are 18 get a job. You live in cali, no? Make friends in the psy scene. Most enlightened people tend to be creative. Go to festivals, art shows, concerts. Don't be shy or timid. If you truly want something the universe will arrange itself in accordance. Just give it time and make sure your paying attention. You will notice these alignments and you will find what you are looking for. Something you should meditate on though is slowing down. You don't have to rush life to get what you want. Things dont happen instantaneously and there aren't any 10 step guides to making friends with intellectual people. try and do what you enjoy and you will naturally meet like minded individuals. good luck
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#3 Posted : 1/16/2012 2:57:50 AM

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Go party.

Ill admit it is hard to find those who have a love for psychedelics, but start with weed circles Razz
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#4 Posted : 1/16/2012 3:09:35 AM

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abusedtoaster wrote:
Go party.

Ill admit it is hard to find those who have a love for psychedelics, but start with weed circles Razz

ya really go look for people smoking hookah on a college campus.
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#5 Posted : 1/16/2012 3:17:50 AM

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Look for the psytrance parties and other electronic music festivals. It's where the freaks are...

Don't be shy about going by yourself. People there are usually very open and welcoming.
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#6 Posted : 1/16/2012 3:23:02 AM

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Imagine wrote:
Anybody else feel as if they are lonely? I mean the nexus keeps me sane knowing there are others out there like me, but I find it rare to even come across a decent person to have an intellectual talk with nowadays. How do you all deal with this loneliness? It's especially hard for somebody like me who's only eighteen years old to come across anybody my age that shares the same interests. I'm just dying to meet somebody with the same interests/insight as i have.. maybe even just one person who i can connect with, but no matter how hard i try and talk with people it seems as if they have no idea what I'm getting at... this frustrates me.. Any tips my fellow nexians could give me?


Society often enforces the idea onto us that "if we are alone, we are lonely." "Sad and lonely", through cliche sayings, are seen as being synonymous. But this, IMHO, is nothing more than an ideal used to keep people functioning within a social order of habit and convention (i.e., if you teach a person what to desire, then you can tell the pathways they will travel... like setting the tracks for a train).

Just because one is alone, after all, does not mean one is lonely. We must learn to see beyond all forms of ideology (linguistic/cultural illusions), and know that culture is but "a way" of life, not "the way" for anyone.

As far as there "being others like you," we must come to the conclusion that there are no "others" in this world. Everyone is but energy, transferring from state to state, in and out of conscious experience. To say one is an "other" is to create the idea that people are different. Through this forming of identity, we begin separating ourselves from people through various forms of classification (the very start of all stereotypes and cliches). Embarrased Sorry for rambling. My brain is just a conscious stream. Best blessings. I am sure you will find your place amongst all people on this planet.
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#7 Posted : 1/16/2012 3:27:58 AM

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original_sessions wrote:
Imagine wrote:
Anybody else feel as if they are lonely? I mean the nexus keeps me sane knowing there are others out there like me, but I find it rare to even come across a decent person to have an intellectual talk with nowadays. How do you all deal with this loneliness? It's especially hard for somebody like me who's only eighteen years old to come across anybody my age that shares the same interests. I'm just dying to meet somebody with the same interests/insight as i have.. maybe even just one person who i can connect with, but no matter how hard i try and talk with people it seems as if they have no idea what I'm getting at... this frustrates me.. Any tips my fellow nexians could give me?


Just because one is alone, after all, does not mean one is lonely. We must learn to see beyond all forms of ideology (linguistic/cultural illusions), and know that culture is but "a way" of life, not "the way" for anyone.

right on the money. Also does it not seem paradoxical that you are asking people how to deal with not knowing people?
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#8 Posted : 1/16/2012 3:36:08 AM

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No one can ever "know" a person. IMO, we all live within our own cultural constructed realities which are assembled through the association of relative signs and symbols. How a person interprets symbols varies from person to person and place to place. For example, even if people watch the same event unfold, they will each interpret the event differently based on their previous life experiences and current sense of perception. "Who a person is" is something I consider to be a faulty question, much like the meaning of life. "What are we" is much more important.
my smile is stuck / i cannot go back to your frownland / my spirit is made up of the ocean / and the sky and the sun and the moon / and all my eye can see / i cannot go back to your land of gloom / where black jagged shadows / remind me of the coming of your doom / i want my own land / take my hand and come with me / it's not too late for you / it's not too late for me / to find my homeland / where a man can stand by another man / without an ego flying / with no man lying / and no one dying by an earthly hand / let the devils burn and the beggar learn / and the little girls that live in those old worlds / take my kind hand / my smile is stuck / i cannot go back to your frownland / i cannot go back to your frownland
 
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#9 Posted : 1/16/2012 3:59:19 AM

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original_sessions wrote:
Society often enforces the idea onto us that "if we are alone, we are lonely." "Sad and lonely", through cliche sayings, are seen as being synonymous. But this, IMHO, is nothing more than an ideal used to keep people functioning within a social order of habit and convention (i.e., if you teach a person what to desire, then you can tell the pathways they will travel... like setting the tracks for a train).

Just because one is alone, after all, does not mean one is lonely. We must learn to see beyond all forms of ideology (linguistic/cultural illusions), and know that culture is but "a way" of life, not "the way" for anyone.


There is truth in this perspective, but it also think it's worth remembering that we are social animals. We evolved in social groups so that is what most of our brain wiring is inclined towards.

I can really only echo things that have already been said in this thread: put yourself into the circles that like-minded people travel in, realize 18 is young and you have a long journey ahead, have faith in the universe and find peace within yourself even as you look out towards others.
 
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#10 Posted : 1/16/2012 4:52:01 AM

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I have a couple of friends who I use psychedelics with, but it seems as if they are not catching on to a lot of the insight these psychedelics give and merely brush it away. Almost all of my friends smoke weed, but just because they smoke weed does not mean they are connecting with me on an intellectual level. thanks for all the advice guys, I will definitely go to more concerts/parties in order to meet more people, any recommendations for any upcoming ones in southern california?
 
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#12 Posted : 1/16/2012 5:58:43 AM

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Imagine wrote:
Anybody else feel as if they are lonely? I mean the nexus keeps me sane knowing there are others out there like me, but I find it rare to even come across a decent person to have an intellectual talk with nowadays. How do you all deal with this loneliness?


Socializing can be nice once in a while, but I can't say I've ever felt lonely as you describe it. I don't mean to sound conceited, but for the most part I'm at peace with myself and don't need anyone to intellectualize with. I've merged with what I would call "God", experienced out-of-body travel, and as a regular lucid dreamer I interact with aspects of myself every night, learning new and exciting things about my mind and reality, and am content with just having those experiences.

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Any tips my fellow nexians could give me?


It sounds like your ego is naturally just trying to find similar aspects of itself in other people, to affirm its identity within them.

Maybe if you stop seeking yourself (Your Self) in others, you will learn how to Just Be. At peace with Your Self. Wink
 
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#13 Posted : 1/16/2012 6:25:06 AM

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I'm 18 and feeling quite the same my friend you are not alone. I have close friends that I like a lot. But it would be really nice for fresh faces and some change.

 
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#14 Posted : 1/16/2012 7:50:58 AM

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Once you grow and mature more, it is easier to connect with people that are different too. You may find yourself in a friendship that functions great not because you're so alike, but because of your differences and not to say the least laughter. My best friend is very different from me, shares almost none of my interests, but we have a great and tight relationship. In fact, many of my best friends are very different.

Do not close the door on our differences, but learn to love it, embrace it and find wisdom in it. It really is a spice of life.
 
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#15 Posted : 1/16/2012 8:05:41 AM

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original_sessions wrote:
Society often enforces the idea onto us that "if we are alone, we are lonely." "Sad and lonely", through cliche sayings, are seen as being synonymous. But this, IMHO, is nothing more than an ideal used to keep people functioning within a social order of habit and convention (i.e., if you teach a person what to desire, then you can tell the pathways they will travel... like setting the tracks for a train).

Just because one is alone, after all, does not mean one is lonely. We must learn to see beyond all forms of ideology (linguistic/cultural illusions), and know that culture is but "a way" of life, not "the way" for anyone.

As far as there "being others like you," we must come to the conclusion that there are no "others" in this world. Everyone is but energy, transferring from state to state, in and out of conscious experience. To say one is an "other" is to create the idea that people are different. Through this forming of identity, we begin separating ourselves from people through various forms of classification (the very start of all stereotypes and cliches). Embarrased Sorry for rambling. My brain is just a conscious stream. Best blessings. I am sure you will find your place amongst all people on this planet.

i like this perspective. reminds me of this quote

Aloneness is the joy of being just yourself. It is being joyous with yourself, it is enjoying your own company. There are very few people who enjoy their own company. And it is a very strange world: nobody enjoys his company and everybody wants others to enjoy his company! If they don’t enjoy he feels insulted — and alone he feels disgusted with himself. In fact, if YOU cannot enjoy your own company, who else is going to enjoy it?
-Osho

OP you live in SoCal? i guarantee there are intellectuals there that are interested in many things, dmt and the insights it gives included. and there are things like this going on there! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7KhBtBa6bY if you like this music, the scene for it is in southern california

I'm in the same situation as you though for the most part. i have one friend who i can talk about some things with but not much. i also feel like he's like your friends and just brushes off the insights that psychedelics give and uses them just to get fucked up. i have other friends that i hang out with sometimes but when i'm with them i feel like i'd rather just go hang out with myself lol. the internet is where i find most of my like minded peers. i don't really mind it being this way because i'm more of a homebody anyways but when the house is empty for a few days it does get a tad lonely but once i relieve my boredom that was associated with it i'm fine
 
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#16 Posted : 1/16/2012 9:09:12 AM

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Citta wrote:
Once you grow and mature more, it is easier to connect with people that are different too. You may find yourself in a friendship that functions great not because you're so alike, but because of your differences and not to say the least laughter. My best friend is very different from me, shares almost none of my interests, but we have a great and tight relationship. In fact, many of my best friends are very different.

Do not close the door on our differences, but learn to love it, embrace it and find wisdom in it. It really is a spice of life.



Great advice! Maybe I am closing too many doors on differences.
 
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#17 Posted : 1/16/2012 12:45:00 PM

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I've had the deal with a lot of loneliness in life. I had a rough youth with a family that was torn to pieces through constant bickering and fighting and at school I severely bullied. I was degraded, ignored, beaten up. And then when I came home, the whole cycled repeated itself with two brothers that jumped me. And when my parents did something about it, it was by punishing me.

I felt alone and deserted and secluded myself from the world behind a computer. Because that computer didn't call me a pathetic piece of shit when I did something wrong. It just said 'bad command or file name'. This led to me having underdeveloped social skills and I had a really hard time making friends. At age 16 I get myself a girlfriend of similar background(the bullied part that is) and we really connected. I never felt lonely because I had her, but we were world for each other. When that relationship ended after 8.5 year, I got kicked harder into a depression than ever before.

I felt completely alone because the people that I thought were friends told me I lived too far away for them to bother visited or supporting me. At that point, I had nothing. It was all gone. It was just me and some stuff, and I don't really care about stuff. After crying non-stop on the couch for a few weeks I decided something had to change, so I joined a debating club. And I was asked to barkeep for them, and then I met a lovely girl with whom I started dancing. And then I joined a rock climbing group.

While I still feel lonely at times because I have serious bonding issues(I distrust everyone I meet and know due to my history. I think there are only 2 people I really connect with), it really helped me cope with things. And there lies the solution to your loneliness: go out and meet people. Go do things that interest you, learn to love strangers(ha! coming out of my mouth, the irony) and learn to talk to a lot of people. You'll quickly notice that while the social interactions might be superficial at best, you will eventually meet people that you like. Don't look for people who share the same interests as you, but look for people who know how to push your buttons. Not the "aggravate" button but the "wonder" button. The best people are the ones that challenge you, make you question yourself.

But be careful! Watch out for the people that make you wear a funny hat, put on a clowns uniform with no pants and a 10 foot tall rabbit's head made out of paper.
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#18 Posted : 1/16/2012 2:11:59 PM

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Imagine wrote:
Anybody else feel as if they are lonely? I mean the nexus keeps me sane knowing there are others out there like me, but I find it rare to even come across a decent person to have an intellectual talk with nowadays. How do you all deal with this loneliness? It's especially hard for somebody like me who's only eighteen years old to come across anybody my age that shares the same interests. I'm just dying to meet somebody with the same interests/insight as i have.. maybe even just one person who i can connect with, but no matter how hard i try and talk with people it seems as if they have no idea what I'm getting at... this frustrates me.. Any tips my fellow nexians could give me?


Hey Imagine. Smile Cool name, kind of surprised it wasn't taken yet. Razz Anywho, I just wanted to let you know, I certainly can relate to you. It seems most our age tend to be trendy or preoccupied with petty things, especially at 18! I was then having MDMA fueled enlightenment while my then best friend was focused on her next lay. Rolling eyes I've always handled MDMA differently. I especially love writing while under the influence. I'm all about being one with myself, does that make sense? There's so much more to life than what books, our mainstream culture or government leads us to believe (assuming you're from the states..I'm fed up with the over regulation of things [SOPA &PIPA, are you kidding me?!].) Obviously, you know these things though. I wish I had advice but I'm in the same predicament. I'm sick of people with selfish intentions and fake personas. True, loyal friends are way too rare. I wish you luck, it isn't easy. Hope you find one of your soulmate friends soon. Sharing common philosophies can feel soo good! Smile
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It was the same with me at the age of 18
then i started sports (selfassurence-boost) and went to goa partys (psy-trance).
everything else developed like that. perhaps this will happen with you (if there are some nice people in your neighbourhood)
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