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ragabr wrote:Caapi Copy, with a very high confidence but not absolute certainty, is rue extracted harmalas, not caapi. Caapi copy consists of harmine,harmaline and thh in ratio's found within the Caapi vine. whether or not the combined harmaline, is extracted from rue and added in, i can't be sure. But the Harmine and thh found in Caapi-Copy definitely filled my room with jungle spirits and possessed the essence of Aya. So i dont think its fair to say Caapi-Copy is just rue extracted harmalas. edit- to be fair; i guess i don't have enough equally detailed experience's from rue to to point out the differences. I was pleased with the outcome anyway. If the Harmala part of the mixed ratio, is extracted from rue and added in, then i guess in this case, it should be fine to add some rue .It seems the outcome varies from person to person so i'll go with my instincts anyway. not sure i'll be able to voyage tommorow anyway so by the time i'm able to again, i'll probably have some more caapi-copy anyway. (or ideally, have the time and gas to cook up an actual vine brew  )
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Its much cheaper and worth the time to extract your own harmalas from either caapi or rue. FV's products have a history of being kinda sketchy, and i wouldn't support their business for exactly that reason. Not to mention they're overpriced. And the fact that if you do it yourself you can be much more confident you are ingesting what you mean to ingest, and not possibly something other than whats advertised. "let those who have talked to the elves, find each other and band together" -TMK
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The Day Tripper wrote:Its much cheaper and worth the time to extract your own harmalas from either caapi or rue. FV's products have a history of being kinda sketchy, and i wouldn't support their business for exactly that reason. Not to mention they're overpriced. And the fact that if you do it yourself you can be much more confident you are ingesting what you mean to ingest, and not possibly something other than whats advertised. Extracton will be the goal in the near future i hope, but it's very impractical at the moment. Fairly sure i'll mostly go down the traditional brew route in the future anyway. As for FV , i can only really speak from my own experience with them ,and the results of their c.c, which was great.People should always research vendors and suppliers if they have any reason to be suspicious though.
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d-T-r wrote:
Caapi copy consists of harmine,harmaline and thh in ratio's found within the Caapi vine. whether or not the combined harmaline, is extracted from rue and added in, i can't be sure.
That is what FV claims but we know for certain that what FV claimed to be THH was not THH at all. It was almost all harmine, which is why I suggested that it comes from rue and not caapi. That and the price, which while still a rip-off, is not as high as it would be if using caapi, when compared to their prices for what they acknowledge to be rue alkaloids. While we can, and do, damn the company on the known evidence, I will also mention in passing that the statement "ratios found within the Caapi vine" is not a meaningful statement. All of the different published analyses of Caapi alkaloid content have shown an extreme variation in ratios, with some coming up with larger amounts of harmaline than harmine, though rare. It's simply ad-copy for a company who lies about its products and refuses to make good. Edit: Lest anyone read this and think there's no difference between Caapi and Rue, let me say that Caapi typically has much more harmine than harmaline, which is reversed in Rue. I also do not believe that THH is found in any known samples of Rue. PK Dick is to LSD as HP Lovecraft is to Mushrooms
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just fyi, those ratios are not usually reversed in rue. Rue typically contain more harmine than harmaline. Seeds with more harmaline are not as common, and some have almost no harmaline. Some rare seeds even have significant ammounts of THH. Long live the unwoke.
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Cool, thanks jamie. PK Dick is to LSD as HP Lovecraft is to Mushrooms
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Any words of wisdom on mixing these two together with admixture?
Any advantages?
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