I Eat Plant Magic
Posts: 1099 Joined: 30-Jan-2010 Last visit: 28-Mar-2013 Location: The Wilds of Wales
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A couple of nights ago I had a beer with dinner and a glass of wine afterwards-- I wasn't tipsy, but was definitely feeling it. Later that evening I fired up some very caapi changa with a friend, and after a couple of crazy experiences I noticed that the changa had potentiated the alcohol in my system, and I was actually a little drunk! That wasn't much of an issue, except when I woke up the next morning I had one of the worst hangovers I can remember! I even had to stay in bed for a few more hours than normal to sleep it off... so be warned, vaped caapi leaves can act as an effective MAOI in more ways than one! ¤ø¸โø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø¸โø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø¸โø¤º¨
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 4804 Joined: 08-Dec-2008 Last visit: 18-Aug-2023 Location: UK
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I had a night-long session with a caapi 20x changa one time in 2010. Even without alcohol or anything nasty in my system I still had a pretty solid headache until I went to sleep again the next evening.
You can definately easily overdo it with smoked harmaloids.
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Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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Too heavy on the harmalas can make one very sedated. But swims noticed that changa actually gets rid of the feeling of intoxication from alcohol and generally leaves people feel very clear headed the next day. Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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Too heavy on the harmalas can make one very sedated. But swims noticed that changa actually gets rid of the feeling of intoxication from alcohol and generally leaves people feel very clear headed the next day. Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 412 Joined: 24-Dec-2009 Last visit: 02-Jan-2021 Location: United States
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I'm surprised you guys can drink ANY alcohol with Changa. I found out the hard way that alcohol + smoked harmalas = nasty painful headache. I should have researched it beforehand, but I found out after that harmalas and alcohol causes headaches, but I guess it's not true for everyone! For the record, I'd only had two strong dark beers with the changa when I noticed the horrible headache. I didn't experience a hangover though. All posts are completely fictional and for educational purposes only
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 332 Joined: 19-Jun-2010 Last visit: 16-Jan-2020
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Dorge wrote:Too heavy on the harmalas can make one very sedated. But swims noticed that changa actually gets rid of the feeling of intoxication from alcohol and generally leaves people feel very clear headed the next day. Not in my experience! But I don't drink alcohol except maybe a couple times a year. I don't think I'll ever make another 20x changa (10-12x is nice though). Not only does it leave me with a bit of a hangover but the experience itself can be uncomfortable, almost painful (mentally, physically, both?) a heavy sickly electric pressure. Its the MeICNU
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 117 Joined: 06-Jul-2011 Last visit: 12-Aug-2014 Location: everywhere/nowhere
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I cant remember if i had any alcohol the other night, i dont think so, but after i smoked a couple hits of my 10x (i think...) caapi changa, i had a pretty raging headache the rest of the night..  All posts by great_blue are fictitious in nature and for entertainment purposes only. In no way does the author condone or support illegal activity in any way shape or form, anytime or anywhere. If it's illegal, don't do it!
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Posts: 1999 Joined: 13-Jun-2011 Last visit: 24-Jun-2018
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I just refrain from indulging if I've been drinking. A couple of beers / glasses of wine is my cut off point as I'm a bit of a lightweight. Can't say that I have had a headache after smoalking with this approach, and I like fairly harmala heavy Changa. I do find that if I drink dark beer and smoke weed that I usually get a stonking head ache, which I put down to the tannins in the beer. Worth noting maybe. Lose Control, Free My Soul, Break Me Open, Make Me Whole."DMT kicked my balls off" - od3
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 7 Joined: 06-Dec-2011 Last visit: 18-Jul-2012
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I've smoked changa while intoxicated on alcohol and felt the opposite actually. It really sobered me up a bit. I didn't find any negative effects from the changa and it was from my batch with 100mg of caapi alkaloids and 500mg DMT infused into 500mg herbs.
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 45 Joined: 08-Jan-2011 Last visit: 26-Feb-2013 Location: dreamland
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Recently I was 3/4 through a strong rum and coke, and realized my IPA had fully evaporated from 250 mg spice and 500 mg caapi. Went though half of that in about an hour, the next day I had no hangover/ headache feeling whatsoever. I don't know how 20x caapi would've changed things, but that's my 2 cents
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