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where do you think we will end up in the afterlife and do you think dmt is opens portal to that world?
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I don't know nor do I think it's a good idea to ever think that you do know.
It's a once in a lifetime experience; conclusion.
Whereas we can smoke DMT anytime.
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I like to believe our spirit carries on elsewhere,
but no one can be sure, and never will be, it's the great mystery my friend, and cannot be answered.
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Hyperspace Architect/Doctor
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Afterlife is Life. "You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness."
— Terence McKenna
"They Say It helps when you close yours eyes cowboy"
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Rennasauce Man
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We are spiritual beings on a human journey, instead of human beings on a spiritual journey. so the afterlife, is just the end of our human experience, and the beginning of something else, confirmation bias keeps us from knowing what that is, but I'm just fine with that.  . "let those who have talked to the elves, find each other and band together" -TMK
In a society in which nearly everybody is dominated by somebody else's mind or by a disembodied mind, it becomes increasingly difficult to learn the truth about the activities of governments and corporations, about the quality or value of products, or about the health of one's own place and economy.
In such a society, also, our private economies will depend less upon the private ownership of real, usable property, and more upon property that is institutional and abstract, beyond individual control, such as money, insurance policies, certificates of deposit, stocks, etc. And as our private economies become more abstract, the mutual, free helps and pleasures of family and community life will be supplanted by a kind of displaced citizenship and by commerce with impersonal and self-interested suppliers...
The great enemy of freedom is the alignment of political power with wealth. This alignment destroys the commonwealth - that is, the natural wealth of localities and the local economies of household, neighborhood, and community - and so destroys democracy, of which the commonwealth is the foundation and practical means.” - Wendell Berry
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..when you're so deeply asleep that you don't usually remember what you dreamed or where you were when you wake..
this is similar to the afterlife IMO..
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Hyperspace Architect/Doctor
Posts: 1242 Joined: 11-Jul-2010 Last visit: 08-Dec-2012 Location: On this plane
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nen888 wrote:..when you're so deeply asleep that you don't usually remember what you dreamed or where you were when you wake..
this is similar to the afterlife IMO.. When you awake and start thinking of things in reality your memory of that dream slowly starts to fade away. I remember my dreams when i awake, maybe not every detail, but dreams help us get through life, it they warn us of things, and i have even heard of people finding out about internal body problems through dreams. "You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness."
— Terence McKenna
"They Say It helps when you close yours eyes cowboy"
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member for the trees
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..for sure, dreams are a guide to living..i'm talking about Deep sleep (REM)
..ever been suddenly awoken from a very deep sleep? to me it's just like hyperspace for a split second, until the normal reality boots up...
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Eon Worker
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Sky Motion wrote:I like to believe our spirit carries on elsewhere,
but no one can be sure, and never will be, it's the great mystery my friend, and cannot be answered. To say no one will be sure is just your belief through your own perception. I think positive belief has a very big part to play in the awakening of your character and mission. My belief is that there is 1 of 3 directions each "individual" could "decide" to go to after "death" within a 3d cycle. A 4th density negative cycle, a 4th density positive cycle or a repeat of the 3rd density cycle.
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Hyperspace Architect/Doctor
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nen888 wrote:..for sure, dreams are a guide to living..i'm talking about Deep sleep (REM)
..ever been suddenly awoken from a very deep sleep? to me it's just like hyperspace for a split second, until the normal reality boots up... I c what you mean, i don't think i fully understood before, but now i know exactly what you mean now, This has happen to me, just like a spice experience, you are kinda like WTF? your like what just happened, and have no recollection of anything. Sometimes it feels like you are right at the cusp of what it was, but it never comes. "You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness."
— Terence McKenna
"They Say It helps when you close yours eyes cowboy"
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nen888 wrote:..when you're so deeply asleep that you don't usually remember what you dreamed or where you were when you wake..
this is similar to the afterlife IMO.. This is an interesting perspective, but there are some things that come into play. So when you are dreaming this deep your brains operational frequency drops to ~3Hz from around 8-12Hz or so during it's waking state. These are rough figures. When you die, that frequency completely gets eliminated. But here's where it gets interesting. There is an evident and very obvious time dilation that occurs when you reach these states of sleep. You can experience so much time in such little earth time. What if during the transition from 1Hz to 0 it is possible to dilate time infinitely? Or if not infinitely, at least as much so that you could experience an entire lifetime in the final minutes, or seconds, of your life here on Earth. Perhaps this is what the brain is doing during it's final activities. One can only muse such notions. One can think they are practicing for it. One can only wait and see...
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Eon Worker
Posts: 144 Joined: 15-Mar-2011 Last visit: 01-Oct-2012 Location: London
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۩ wrote:nen888 wrote:..when you're so deeply asleep that you don't usually remember what you dreamed or where you were when you wake..
this is similar to the afterlife IMO.. This is an interesting perspective, but there are some things that come into play. So when you are dreaming this deep your brains operational frequency drops to ~3Hz from around 8-12Hz or so during it's waking state. These are rough figures. When you die, that frequency completely gets eliminated. But here's where it gets interesting. There is an evident and very obvious time dilation that occurs when you reach these states of sleep. You can experience so much time in such little earth time. What if during the transition from 1Hz to 0 it is possible to dilate time infinitely? Or if not infinitely, at least as much so that you could experience an entire lifetime in the final minutes, or seconds, of your life here on Earth. Perhaps this is what the brain is doing during it's final activities. One can only muse such notions. One can think they are practicing for it. One can only wait and see... I think this has good vision. I believe your spirit/energy's vibration is eternal and constant but a 3d vessel suppresses it until you die.
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Barry
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I believe that we transcend this humanly world when we die. Very possibly entering into a hyperspce type place. I have no proof of course so i could just be talking a lot of mumbo jumbo 
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DMT-Nexus member
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really interesting views are coming from this discussion and i would like to open it up more and ask a further question which is "do you believe in reincarnation after death or do you stick with the views about staying in hyperspace" personally i couldn't imagine being reincarnated and losing all my memories and spiritual energy only to have to live a new life hoping i find the spiritual guidance again which equals a rinse and repeat cycle.
do you all agree or do you think the two tie in together more clever way?
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Barry
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Ive often thought that thought. I sometimes think that maybe we get a life in a different dimension each time we die. We go from here to the next step up which may be a hyperspace environment and then we could die in that realm and enter a new environment and so on. It would be great to know the truth about life but i think we are incapable of understanding such things.
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۩ wrote:
What if during the transition from 1Hz to 0 it is possible to dilate time infinitely? Or if not infinitely, at least as much so that you could experience an entire lifetime in the final minutes, or seconds, of your life here on Earth. Perhaps this is what the brain is doing during it's final activities. One can only muse such notions. One can think they are practicing for it. One can only wait and see...
I was reading about black holes the other day, and the physicist mentioned a scenario that seems to mirror what you're saying here. With black holes (as the theory goes), if a person were to approach a black hole, gravity would pull him in to the core and from his perspective he would be pulled into the center in a finite amount of time. From the perspective of an outsider watching the event, the person would forever appear to be pulled further and further in, growing smaller and smaller, but never actually making it through. Of course in this scenario, the roles are reversed where the person in the act perceives it as a finite event and the observer perceives the act happening infinitely. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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@DeMenTed: thats a really nice take on what happens to us after we die and ive never really thought of it as maybe we are going through a phase of climbing dimensions until you said it.
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ab381 wrote:really interesting views are coming from this discussion and i would like to open it up more and ask a further question which is "do you believe in reincarnation after death or do you stick with the views about staying in hyperspace" personally i couldn't imagine being reincarnated and losing all my memories and spiritual energy only to have to live a new life hoping i find the spiritual guidance again which equals a rinse and repeat cycle.
This notion has bothered me as well. It's like thus far in my life, I've climbed step by step on the spiritual rungs of the ladder, each step being reinforced by all those that came before it, and it would be a shame to have to go through building my way back up all over again (taking into account that I still have far to go in this lifetime). It's a little discouraging, but whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen no matter what you think about it, so I try not to dwell on that aspect of death-rebirth. It just creates more negative energy for me. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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I will definitely try to adopt your attitude of not worrying until its happened because like you said it creates negative energy which leads to bad trips. Thanks for pointing this out.
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member for the trees
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۩ wrote: Quote:What if during the transition from 1Hz to 0 it is possible to dilate time infinitely? Or if not infinitely, at least as much so that you could experience an entire lifetime in the final minutes, or seconds, of your life here on Earth. Perhaps this is what the brain is doing during it's final activities. ..very similar to my own conjecture..the highest dose smoked DMT i've had was like lifetimes in a minute, eternity in in instant..i do think the mind/brain/body is capable of such infinite time dilation, especially when it senses that the physical host is about to stop working...
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