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Curiouskid
#21 Posted : 1/2/2012 8:34:49 PM

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gardening seems so easy when your thread is followed gibran!!! unfortunatly it seems that the cold weather and the lack of light is really a problem for these beauties, I already lost one and the other ones are on the edges...
Do you think during winter time an artificial light and heater are needed? a few leaves got brown tips and stains on them but I can't see any bugs, any thought doc?

Nice work though and thank you so much for inspiring us
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#22 Posted : 1/2/2012 8:52:26 PM

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Curiouskid wrote:
gardening seems so easy when your thread is followed gibran!!! unfortunatly it seems that the cold weather and the lack of light is really a problem for these beauties, I already lost one and the other ones are on the edges...
Do you think during winter time an artificial light and heater are needed? a few leaves got brown tips and stains on them but I can't see any bugs, any thought doc?

Nice work though and thank you so much for inspiring us


Wow man I am having exactly the same problem with mine. You can check my thread with pics I have uploaded. My plants have the same symptoms but they also loosing the leafs Sad One lost all leafs so she may not make it Sad

What I had to do yesterday was to replant them. Bought new better soil and moisture control gel. They seem to be ok for mow sice yesterday so fingers crossed. The lack of sun should not be so big problem cos they do not like direct sunlight anyway.


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#23 Posted : 1/4/2012 5:20:11 AM

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yeah I think we are in the same boat my friend, I already lost two babies and another one is now really in bad posture... I tried to change light or else, and the soil seems good, I even put some fertiliser... I kind of assume she doesn't want to be grown here by these hands!

Good luck smorkerx for yours and keep us posted if any good news
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#24 Posted : 1/4/2012 12:59:57 PM

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I wish I could help.

My guess is that if I could see what youā€™re doing in person, it would be obvious what the problem is. Photos on a forum donā€™t substitute for direct examination of soil, growing conditions, light levels, etc.

If I had to guess (and it is just a guess) Iā€™d say the problems are soil-related. Salvia likes a loose soil that holds plenty of water, but that drains well so that the soil never gets water-logged. Soil thatā€™s too dense or gets too wet can cause problems.
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#25 Posted : 1/4/2012 8:28:34 PM

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gibran2 wrote:
If I had to guess (and it is just a guess) Iā€™d say the problems are soil-related. Salvia likes a loose soil that holds plenty of water, but that drains well so that the soil never gets water-logged. Soil thatā€™s too dense or gets too wet can cause problems.


I think you are right about the soil I dont think I had good soil. Now I replanted all plants to miracle grow soil that I mixed with moisture control gel. It looks like at the moment that plants are kind of ok. One plant lost all leafs though so I wonder if she can actually make it like that ?

Do you think this could save them or they are all doomed now ?
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#26 Posted : 1/4/2012 11:47:03 PM

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@smokerx, if the soil is good (new, good drainage, not too packed, slightly acidic pH) the plants are not too exposed to direct sunlight, the humidity is under control, and there's no visible pests (brown spots can be caused by some insects, but those are easily spotted) I would let them rest and slowly get used to their new home. Stress can affect young cuttings, so I would say give them time, and relax yourself as well. In the worst of cases, if in a few days the leaves look worse for whatever reason, you can always try to make cuttings out of them and re-root them in water, in case their radicular system is not okay.

But again, most likely they are just a little stressed. Sending calm vibes your way and theirs.
 
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#27 Posted : 1/10/2012 12:39:01 AM

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The leaves are dried, and the yield is lower than I guestimated: 25g. Still not bad for a ā€œwinter plantā€. Smile
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#28 Posted : 2/5/2012 8:10:35 PM

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hey gibran, I've got a quick question; today I tried to rescue my last baby that has only a few top leaves left in changing the soil and puting some perlite at the bottom to drain better(any good??) and I noticed that the all time the roots kept the shape of the very small pot I received the plant in a few month ago!!! which means I know why she is so weak, she didn't expand her roots to tap into the soil of the pot to survive but stayed confined in this small little space. Would you know what can cause this? the soil in the pot was not packed at all and well wet. It's like she refuses to grow around me!! (I don't take things personnaly!!... Pleased) I lost five plants already and I guess from the same cause.

Thank you for helping me out if you or any of you guys can on this one because I don't want to see this one dying, again!

Cheers
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#29 Posted : 2/5/2012 9:03:05 PM

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Did you break up the roots a bit when you transplanted your plant? Possibly the roots never took to the new soil. To much water may have helped compound this problem in my experience.

I would attempt to make a cutting if possible. Plant it in well draining soil and enclose in a humidity chamber. Mist daily and keep in good light no direct sun.

I began taking cuttings when my mother plant was dieing. All the babies are now larger than the mother and much healthier and well aclimatized, after a few weeks I you can ween the cuttings off the humidity chamber.

Hope I could help a bit!
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#30 Posted : 2/5/2012 9:16:12 PM

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Curiouskid wrote:
hey gibran, I've got a quick question; today I tried to rescue my last baby that has only a few top leaves left in changing the soil and puting some perlite at the bottom to drain better(any good??) and I noticed that the all time the roots kept the shape of the very small pot I received the plant in a few month ago!!! which means I know why she is so weak, she didn't expand her roots to tap into the soil of the pot to survive but stayed confined in this small little space. Would you know what can cause this? the soil in the pot was not packed at all and well wet. It's like she refuses to grow around me!! (I don't take things personnaly!!... Pleased) I lost five plants already and I guess from the same cause.

Thank you for helping me out if you or any of you guys can on this one because I don't want to see this one dying, again!

Cheers

Salvia doesnā€™t grow fast when the temperature is below about 74°F or so. Do you keep your plant in a cool location?
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#31 Posted : 2/5/2012 9:26:01 PM

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@ psikotrope: thanks man I might think about making a cutting but there is not a lot of leaves left...

@ gibran: actually yeah the whole house is quite cold and the plant is by the window in my room; here is winter time and the temperatures are way below 74°F even in the house unfortunatly!!! I guess I have to move south or find a warmer house then!!! Do you think I should make a cutting and start fresh like Psikotrope suggest? Thank you for your answer
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#32 Posted : 2/6/2012 12:01:27 AM

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Curiouskid wrote:
@ psikotrope: thanks man I might think about making a cutting but there is not a lot of leaves left...

@ gibran: actually yeah the whole house is quite cold and the plant is by the window in my room; here is winter time and the temperatures are way below 74°F even in the house unfortunatly!!! I guess I have to move south or find a warmer house then!!! Do you think I should make a cutting and start fresh like Psikotrope suggest? Thank you for your answer

Iā€™ve moved recently myself (to a house thatā€™s colder in the winter) and noticed how slow the growth of my cuttings was. So I bought a seed-starter heat mat. It raises the temperature of the soil about 10°F. Yet to be determined how it affects growthā€¦

Iā€™d avoid transplanting unless nothing else seems to work ā€“ salvia doesnā€™t always take kindly to being disturbed, especially if the plants are already stressed.
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#33 Posted : 2/6/2012 12:57:41 AM

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ok cool, let us know how it goes. I'm gonna wait patiently milder temperatures and thinking myself of moving to a place where there's no winter or a mild one, this way growing tropical plants won't be a hassle anymore!

I'm very gratefull for you help, good luck man
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