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Lots Of Harmine Visible In Chaliponga Extraction? Options
 
Vok
#1 Posted : 1/2/2012 2:30:04 AM

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Hi, im in the process of taking a heated (200*F) 151 Proof Everclear extraction of 5g of Chaliponga leaf and after about 30-40 minutes of *electric heat* inside of gently lidded container on an electric griddle, and my question is this:

Has anyone else gotten what appears to be a semi-large amount of Harmine out of there Chaliponga extractions? i got absolutely none until it was heated, and got didnt appear to get any with a percolator setup, but under my handy 395nm UV Led flashlight shines Flourescent green the same way one of my Passionflower Incarnata water extracts/one part of a Rue water extract showed, (i think it was the unbroken seed coating part).

Im sure this isnt related to tobacco smoke contamination, as i am hypersensitive to nicotine now and would notice terrible effects instantly (and ive smoked a good bit of this raw leaf and am sure there is no nicotine present). I say this because ive heard that tobacco has been known to have some harmala alkaloids, but one semi-direct 2nd hand breath of someone else's cigarette smoke causes me instant nausea/dizziness, so that would definitely have been noticed.

i have added no Harmala related plants and did not add anything to change the acidity, its just ethanol and water, did not glow beforehand.

The harmine also is difficult as hell to detect with the other dark compounds in the liquid ethanol, but with the light directly up to it and if left to settle a bit, the green glow is clearly present. (i doubt that even in a blacklight room would someone notice this color unless looking with the light shining directly through it).

Will post/link pictures/a video here when i find my camera.
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Vok
#2 Posted : 1/2/2012 2:56:58 AM

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To be clear, this is a Chaliponga ONLY extraction, nothing but Chaliponga & 151 everclear.

(in case anyone was thinking no kidding you can see the harmal alkaloids if you mix them in with Passionflower or Rue!)
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#3 Posted : 1/2/2012 2:54:19 PM

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How can you be sure it's harmine and not some other flourescent compound?
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#4 Posted : 1/2/2012 6:03:03 PM

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i cant be, but so far besides the harmalas i havent run across anything alkaloids that glow so strongly under black light. I am in no way positive of this result, but wanted to ask around before i try and figure out how to have it isolated and verified (not to mention this would need done with several sources/batches of chali to make sure that this isnt an isolated incident.

At this point the substance being Harmine is purely speculation, does anyone else know of any alkaloids it could be fluorescing yellowish green under the black light.
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#5 Posted : 1/2/2012 6:15:56 PM

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alot of alkaloids glow like that..LSD will even glow under a blacklight.

Some other beta carbolines might glow as well, ones like 2MTHBC that are not harmalas. Cant say for sure though.
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