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littledante420
#21 Posted : 12/28/2011 5:23:35 PM

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universalshaman wrote:
Sky Motion wrote:
You misunderstood me,

I'm saying I don't really find anything to discuss here in this post. Things are bad as you pointed out, but I mean..we all know things are bad.

I guess I can say it would be cool to go to alien paradise Cool



What would the world be like without commodification of resources? How would the masses take the withdrawl of monetary exchange.. How would we even go about implementing the change, via one small step at a time?
Cool

I've been thinking about this a lot lately and I think people really don't need money, just advertising. Like how most people now a days feel they have to go to college even though they really don't. All you have to do is tell someone they have to do something for so long and eventually they will feel obligated to do it. I'd like to give more of my opinions but I'm on standby and typing on my phone takes to long Cool
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The Chr0nn01553ur
#22 Posted : 12/28/2011 5:35:42 PM

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RebornInSmoke wrote:
Headspice got my point^.

chronic took me completely out of context and didnt get me at all. :/


Lol dude, I understood your point very clearly. I just disagree, believe it or not. I guess you didnt get that.

"Until you can excise basic human nature and animal instinct from the human experience, there will be no perfect world. The question one must ask is, at that point is it really perfect?"

Basic human nature? What's that again? Because last time I checked, I break the mold of what human nature seems to be in this world, and I'm only 21, so it can be done. It's not hard. We do have animal instincts, but we also have a conscious that when supplemented by healthy beliefs can override those instincts; it's actually their purpose IMO, to overcome them. Like I said, we're still a young planet. We're like a child coming to terms with it's puberty. Our hormones are going crazy. We're insecure... But with a little positivity, time, and etc we will synthesize the separate aspects that make up ourselves into a harmonious whole. Smile

Once again, to say that it can't be done, or won't ever be realized, is foolish, at best, IMO. You don't have to get rid of free will, "human nature", animal instincts, or etc, to have a better world. That's just preposterous! Have you guys not learned anything from smoking DMT? Jeez I learned this shit from L.

You guys really think that this is the only way it can be? That there aren't other realities out there that are more desirable that exist, that function? It's laughable!

If everyone thought like me we would have paradise on Earth, but it's ignorant people that get in the way and ruin it for everyone. They are the majority at the moment, so like I said, though I do think a better world is possible, without some sort of blessing in disguise like a plague or natural disaster that gets rid of all these confused people, I think we have a few more generations before we get there... Because the majority of souls here are too young.

So quit thinking that I don't understand your point, and try to understand mine, because we both know I did get you and didn't take you out of context, and if you really think I did, then why don't you explain why you think that? Because I imagine you'd have a rather hard time.
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The Chr0nn01553ur
#23 Posted : 12/28/2011 5:39:53 PM

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littledante420 wrote:
universalshaman wrote:
Sky Motion wrote:
You misunderstood me,

I'm saying I don't really find anything to discuss here in this post. Things are bad as you pointed out, but I mean..we all know things are bad.

I guess I can say it would be cool to go to alien paradise Cool



What would the world be like without commodification of resources? How would the masses take the withdrawl of monetary exchange.. How would we even go about implementing the change, via one small step at a time?
Cool

I've been thinking about this a lot lately and I think people really don't need money, just advertising. Like how most people now a days feel they have to go to college even though they really don't. All you have to do is tell someone they have to do something for so long and eventually they will feel obligated to do it. I'd like to give more of my opinions but I'm on standby and typing on my phone takes to long Cool


I don't think we need money either.
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#24 Posted : 12/28/2011 7:04:52 PM

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The Chr0nn01553ur wrote:
We're like a child coming to terms with it's puberty. Our hormones are going crazy. We're insecure... But with a little positivity, time, and etc we will synthesize the separate aspects that make up ourselves into a harmonious whole. Smile


^This, you hit it right on the head.

Our species is in its adolescence, we've learned a lot and we think we know it all but we still haven't accepted adult responsibility (for each other and the planet) yet.

Don't worry, we will grow up eventually. Though I'm afraid it will take many generations.
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Shamasi Wiz
#25 Posted : 12/28/2011 8:30:11 PM

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@The Chr0nn01553ur: I agree with pretty much your whole post, but this...
The Chr0nn01553ur wrote:

If everyone thought like me we would have paradise on Earth, but it's ignorant people that get in the way and ruin it for everyone. They are the majority at the moment, so like I said, though I do think a better world is possible, without some sort of blessing in disguise like a plague or natural disaster that gets rid of all these confused people, I think we have a few more generations before we get there... Because the majority of souls here are too young.

...is like some Hitler shit. If DMT and other psychedelics have taught me anything, it's sympathy for others. I think a lot of people that cause problems are just caught up in our society's bad habits. Most people mean well, but they're just not strong or creative enough to find better ways of living. They can't see past their own noses. Yes, that's largely their own fault, but they haven't experienced some of the heavenly possibilities or vast levels of interconnection that most of us here have, so they suck at helping us move into a more harmonious state of being, and they can't see how much the rest of the world is affected by their negative actions.

But I think keeping faith in them, teaching them better ways by being living examples, and eventually using all of their potential energy for positive changes would be much more effective than having them wiped out and starting from scratch with very few. They know some things are wrong, and if given a chance they'll jump on the utopia bandwagon if it's a cool enough ride.SmileOur species is still in our childhood years, and we have to learn to make friends and play with everyone in the sand box, even the bullies.
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The Chr0nn01553ur
#26 Posted : 12/28/2011 8:44:56 PM

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Shamasi Wiz wrote:
@The Chr0nn01553ur: I agree with pretty much your whole post, but this...
The Chr0nn01553ur wrote:

If everyone thought like me we would have paradise on Earth, but it's ignorant people that get in the way and ruin it for everyone. They are the majority at the moment, so like I said, though I do think a better world is possible, without some sort of blessing in disguise like a plague or natural disaster that gets rid of all these confused people, I think we have a few more generations before we get there... Because the majority of souls here are too young.

...is like some Hitler shit. If DMT and other psychedelics have taught me anything, it's sympathy for others. I think a lot of people that cause problems are just caught up in our society's bad habits. Most people mean well, but they're just not strong or creative enough to find better ways of living. They can't see past their own noses. Yes, that's largely their own fault, but they haven't experienced some of the heavenly possibilities or vast levels of interconnection that most of us here have, so they suck at helping us move into a more harmonious state of being, and they can't see how much the rest of the world is affected by their negative actions.

But I think keeping faith in them, teaching them better ways by being living examples, and eventually using all of their potential energy for positive changes would be much more effective than having them wiped out and starting from scratch with very few. They know some things are wrong, and if given a chance they'll jump on the utopia bandwagon if it's a cool enough ride.SmileOur species is still in our childhood years, and we have to learn to make friends and play with everyone in the sand box, even the bullies.


I see what you mean but I still totally feel the same way you do, and mean what I said. I didn't mean I want that to happen, by any means. I do have the same kind of unconditional love that you're describing for my fellow brothers and sisters, and I will forever do my best to positively influence those that I can around me, because I think they can be reached when the reaching is done in a discreet, and respectful manner (Unlike the aggressive manner that I resort to online, where I have less patience. Being aggressive in person only pushes people away, but I think people online you can just tell them straight up how it is, and they're better off that way.)..

BUT, at the same time, look around. There are sooo many people still who, even if they heard the truth, and believed it, would still be too lazy to do anything about it. What it comes down to is that pretty much everyone at this point wouldn't even know what to do with their freedom if they truly had it. The majority still want it this way, and I think it will be a long time before the tables are turned, unless, like I said, there is a natural disaster, or a plague, or etc. I'm not saying I want that to happen, and I don't think it will. I was just saying.

I'm sorry if my attitude was a little cynical, but I'm just kind dreading the notion that we'll be stuck in this kinda bullshit until I'm dead. I mean I know I'll be fine, because I feel I'm rather enlightened and blessed, like my life's already good, and set for the most part, but it still hurts very badly to see those around me be so confused. Why can't I just live in a world where everyone is free and empowered? So that we have time to just be and enjoy ourselves, enjoy each other, appreciate, and etc... I'd be lying if I said it's not a little disheartening to think about the future, because why should we have to work our whole lives? We spend so much time doing nothing that is of any value. Optimism only takes you so far when our world is so young. That's why I concentrate on myself, and those around me, like I've said.

And don't get me wrong, I don't let it get me down, I'm just aware of how it is. I love my life, and enjoy it greatly, but that's not to say that I don't think it could all be a lot better for everyone.
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Shamasi Wiz
#27 Posted : 12/28/2011 9:21:55 PM

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Cool, very well-said. I think you're right about people not really wanting their own freedom, or being too lazy to do anything about it once they've seen it's possible. They hate their lack of power over their lives, but they're afraid of being handed that power. This becomes apparent to me when I start talking to people about the impossibly strange, beautiful, and meaningful aspects of psychedelic experiences. Half of the people just sort of start tuning out, not really believing that something so cool is readily available. The other half haven't even heard of anything like it, and are curious. Either way, it shows that us psychonauts are largely staying in the closet when we need to be putting ourselves out there more and more. I know I'm guilty of the laziness part, which I'm working on. It seems like a lot of us have most of the answers, but we're hesitant to boldly come forward and start implementing them. One day...
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