I'm putting this question out there to hear your experiences as well. I've done DMT a fair amount of times. Appx 30-40 or so.

When I did it for the first time it made me see things and brought me to new levels I've never seen on psychedelics. I've done my fair share of LSD and Shrooms prior to DMT but nothing really compared to DMT itself.

Now in the last 6 months or so I've done Shrooms a few times. Now this time my Shroom trip was very similiar to my DMT trip. Maybe not quite "break through" status but alot of the visuals were the same. Esp when I closed my eyes.

It's like doing DMT has opened up my pineal gland and now when I trip I know what to look for (if that makes any sense), because my shroom trips are very similiar to DMT. It's almost like I'm on DMT with how far out there I can go on Shrooms. Hell, there are times I just smoke some weed and it's really DMTish. It's like my pineal gland is now open and more acceptable to these visions.

So my question is. Have you done Shrooms, weed, LSD after DMT and had a similiar trip to DMT itself?

Many people report this.
I wouldn't be so quick to blame the pineal, however. The fact is we don't fully understand these mechanisms.
It is safe to say that DMT does open one up and expand ones consciousness..and taking mushrooms, which is mostly 4-HO-DMT for example, definitely taps into where you've previously been, so to speak.
Any and all psychedelics I do, do this.
Every time I take them, I access every memory of every trip I've had and it just stacks upon itself in an exponential growth of phenomenal experience.
This is quite common.

I agree with House's theory, and believe that DMT opens up the 'paintbox' of experience, and shrooms being similar can also access this 'paintbox': I think it's all down to association. Because psilocybin and DMT are closely related, and have similar visuals, i believe that a similar psilocybin trip can easily be transformed to levels of s DMT trip, especially when your memory and mind, and therefore association is tripping....As house says, it's all about accessing a past trip collective with enhanced open flowing memory- perhaps????!

Yep this has definitely happend to me.
If I do them closer together it happens more so.

Yes, on LSD I find my peaks to be very hyperspace like. I can also feel entity presence sometimes even though they are not physically visible to me. Many report this happening, I think it's just the further opening of the third eye.

I've noticed this a lot with Salvia. It has colored my trips with every other substance, even ones that aren't necessarily psychedelic.

This exact phenomena has happened with my last shrooms trip as well. It has also had an effect on smoking weed. I know what you mean when you say that you now know what to look for. It's extremely difficult in retrospect to figure out if you've been seeing similar things all along, but only now that you can recognize them, do you see them in a new way, or if the content and the building blocks of the experience have actually changed.

Mushrooms were always just like this for me. I took DMT after I had taken mushrooms probly 150 times already or something and thought that the DMT brought me right into the places I had been on my highest doses of cyanescens.

There is something soooo clear about ayahuasca though that nothing else touches..ayahuasca is at the top of the pyramid I think and mushrooms can definatily get very very similar.

It's gotta be down to either accumulating a Trip Memory that once opened by DMT can be accessed by other tryptamines like shrooms and lsd, or memory association. Whatever,supposedly the DMT trip is highly unique, and mushrooms or lsd are nothing like it. This has been stated on the dmt tryptamine palace site. Whilst Dmt may indeed have mind opening properties, and allow the other "a peek in", it's surely thanks to DMT's deeper abilities that one can return to these states with less visionary, although still useful material.

In my experience, after taking ayahuasca, the next and only time after that I took shrooms seemed to be practically identical to an ayahuasca experience to the point that if the psychedelics had been blindly administered to me, I would have most likely concluded that I had been given ayahuasca. I would also be hesitant to use Oroc's tryptamine palace site as an authority on comparing these substances. There's some content on there that's fun to read, most of the info on there can be found elsewhere, and I've found myself disagreeing with a handful of claims on there. I do agree that in terms of DMT's mind opening properties combined with the plasticity of the brain and the psychedelic experience, that by going further out on DMT, and as you rewire, reinforce and create new neuronal connections, that similar stimuli (the other psychedelics) may therefore be able to put you back in a similar state of mind.

Why do people keep saying that shrooms are less visionary than DMT? DMT is not a unique substance at all compared to most of the other classic hallucinogens. Even mescaline, wich isn´t even a tryptamine, has the same kind of quality.

They´re all part of the same family.

-Yes there are similarities, but a DMT trip isn't the same as a shroom trip. Mescaline is something else IMO.

Oh yes it is.

Up the dose some more and you´ll see. I´m not the only one saying this.

-Nonsense!, that's like saying Germany is like France, or Indian food is like thai food, or radio is like television, or standing is like sitting...please excuse me whilst i laugh on top of the highest skyscraper!!

> similar, yes..SAME??..NO! ( MEANS NOT THE SAME! )

Try a higher dose of good shrooms instead of some watery cubies. It´s the same, trust me.

See, i´m not the only one saying this.

well i'm confused. Because i know someone who's tried what youve said, and still doesn't agree...but that's ok.

How do you know his dose/tolerance/digestion/metabolism is effective enough at creating the kinds of experiences that's being described as first hand accounts resulting from a certain dosage size of a potent enough batch of shrooms to create the effects that are very much so like DMT? The argument that your friend doesn't experience it as such is logically fallacious. No one's arguing that at lower doses shrooms may have a unique character, but that's not what's being discussed either.

The active component of shrooms is 4-HO DMT.
Smoked dmt is N,N-DMT.

So yea, not identical, but proper doses of both will bring you to the same realms.

-I still don't agree. But you know different.