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I've brought up the point elsewhere, and it's been met with general incredulity and outright indignation....but black currants are a substantiated MAOI, IMO (and experience). Lifted the note below from a post of my own to another board, rather than retype it. I'm not recommending any bullshit "gummy-huasca", potentiator use. But in terms of a ready-to-hand MAOI, I'm just sayin'........here's the link to the original patent application #2077589The research I found available online is from 1991, performed by Merz and Co GMBH, a German company who was considerate enough to apply for a Canadian patent for some 'elixir du longue vie' or other (my term), and included their research on the subject of black currants (Ribes nigrum) as an MAOI. Short version of their salient study results:
In Vitro: "The black currant concentrate effects a 61% inhibition of MAO Type B, and an 37% inhibition of MAO Type A" [Page 7, Line 23-24]
In Humans: "MAO Type B activity is inhibited in all three subjects with dependency on dosage and time. Maximum inhibition is obtained 60 minutes after application, and is between 70 and 90% at optimum dosage of 20 grams." [Page 8, Line 2-8]And if it comes to that...the Swiss company "Hero" makes some great black currant preserves which would be easier to reduce than juice/concentrate. Good Luck 
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Posts: 1367 Joined: 19-Feb-2008 Last visit: 12-Jun-2016 Location: Pacific Northwest
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'Coatl wrote:Nope, but I doubt the others have evidence for St.John's Wort and Passion Flower... so...
I do however know that they are mild MAOIs. The chopped foliage of passionflower has been tried with positive results ( link). The others (cacao, yohimbe, st john's wort) are just speculation. I'd be very interested if someone experimented and determined whether these are effective, but to recommend them without having any idea whether they work seems a bit inappropriate. Edit: Oops, looks like Acolon already beat me to the punch on this point.
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DePayne wrote:I've brought up the point elsewhere, and it's been met with general incredulity and outright indignation....but black currants are a substantiated MAOI, IMO (and experience). Lifted the note below from a post of my own to another board, rather than retype it. I'm not recommending any bullshit "gummy-huasca", potentiator use. But in terms of a ready-to-hand MAOI, I'm just sayin'........here's the link to the original patent application #2077589The research I found available online is from 1991, performed by Merz and Co GMBH, a German company who was considerate enough to apply for a Canadian patent for some 'elixir du longue vie' or other (my term), and included their research on the subject of black currants (Ribes nigrum) as an MAOI. Short version of their salient study results:
In Vitro: "The black currant concentrate effects a 61% inhibition of MAO Type B, and an 37% inhibition of MAO Type A" [Page 7, Line 23-24]
In Humans: "MAO Type B activity is inhibited in all three subjects with dependency on dosage and time. Maximum inhibition is obtained 60 minutes after application, and is between 70 and 90% at optimum dosage of 20 grams." [Page 8, Line 2-8]And if it comes to that...the Swiss company "Hero" makes some great black currant preserves which would be easier to reduce than juice/concentrate. Good Luck http://www.shroomery.org...age/0/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/25Check out that link, has some good information on Black Currant as an MAOI
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Just to update, I've found this source indicating that yohimbe is not effective as an MAOI admixture when combined with MHRB. And with regards to Tribulus terrestris (puncture vine, Bai Ji Li), this source indicates that the thorn-like fruits of Tribulus terrestris are a sufficient MAOI admixture for DMT-containing plants. It also indicates that the fruits can be made into a tea by themselves to produce an experience reminiscent of caapi vine.
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