It's fairly simple, you see;

We have the money, power, need, numbers, and strength to change the world around us before our very eyes, and turn it into a paradise for everybody. But we are led by the least among us, the least noble, least visionary, the imagination-impaired, so to speak.

This attitude some people have about "Not being able to do anything about it" just seems absolutely silly to me, of course we can! We're all acting collecively to run the planet as it is, and we could all act collectively to halt it.

This is what the occupy wall street protests were starting to move towards, but we simply just didn't have enough numbers.

Our government.. It really is all about greed and control. I'm under the impression now they aren't as intelligent as I thought they were, there probably aren't no great secrets being kept in the White House or CIA's database, they're just a bunch of poppycock morons, who can't even set up a Health Care system for a country.

It's moments like these where I really wish, that aliens are watching this scenario and have a paradise to take those of us that really care about it all to, where we could live amongst fellow like-minded human beings, prospering and flourishing with peace, love and happines..

Ahh shucks, whatever will we do.?

This is kind of a useless post seeing as pretty much everyone here knows this already.

Is there any room for discussion or something?

Yes absolutely, take it away!

You misunderstood me,

I'm saying I don't really find anything to discuss here in this post. Things are bad as you pointed out, but I mean..we all know things are bad.

I guess I can say it would be cool to go to alien paradise

I think that we are collectively on a path to a peaceful, compassionate planet, but I'm pretty sure it will take many more generations before that goal is fully realized. Although, money and power seem to be more on the side of world problems, not world harmonizers.

What would the world be like without commodification of resources? How would the masses take the withdrawl of monetary exchange.. How would we even go about implementing the change, via one small step at a time?

There's plenty to brainstorm and talk about in this thread or any thread for that matter..

It's up to the minds that fall upon the words, that's all.

My personal solution is The Venus Project.
Just do a search for Resource Based Economy and see all the different examples.
Anything is possible when we work together; it's just a matter of evolving to that point.

Huh, I've never heard of the Venus Project before. After a (preliminary) glance at the website it seems like they're on the right track but it seems like greed and 'unawareness' would have to be gotten rid of before a global resource based economy would be feasible. I guess it's like the ant and the rubber tree plant, though -- it has to start somewhere.

The world is not all bad. There is still so much hope. Look into the eyes of a child at Christmas time-kid magic is alive and well.

Things may look bad on the news but they always have. My whole life. And you should hear my mom! I quit watching awhile ago. Theres bad apples out there-some rotten to the core. The whole oarchard still looks ripe with goodness and poential to me.

It seems dark. Lots of wars. Short days. Things will change. They must. They always do.

Forget the aliens. Volunteer at the soup kitchen. Spend more time with your family.

Really want to get out there and fix it? Do what I did not. Finish school. Go further.

I agree with everybody.

Actually it's startling how I found myself nodding in approval at every post

I prefer infinity.

You could never have the perfect anything, but a better world to live in is possible, but it wont happen, not without a revolution, disaster, or some amazing new technology.

Alternative technologies are without a doubt already available and being suppressed, but other than that, yes, I agree.

You can always improve the situation around you though! But it is harder for some than others... :/

"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self." -Aldous Huxley

Check out this book: Sacred Economics

I'm only on chapter 12 but so far it looks like a pretty good idea.

a few things;

first: Define "perfect" please.

second: what makes you think that you can have good without bad?
or that a utopia is possible at all? it simply doesnt work my friend.
same thing with communism in the old USSR. it didnt work. they enforced it. then look what happened.

you can please some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time,
but you cannot please all of the people all of the time.

i put it to you OP that humans need chaos to function in this physical realm.
at the most basic level, this concept of "perfect society" etc etc is impossible.
for it to work there would have to be complete suppression/elimination of free will, to rule out anything being done that might make it "not so perfect" for some people, and "more perfect" for others.
after all, there are people who actually enjoy causing harm/negative outcomes in the world. how would you please them in this "perfect" society? hmm?

please make yourself clearer in your definitions.
im aware im nitpicking, but i have a point do i not?

This is hogwash. He doesn't mean perfect in the sense that you are taking it, and I think that's pretty obvious. To think that we can't at least have a BETTER world than the one we have now is just foolish, IMO, that this is the way it has to be; please, give me break! Yes, people may be different from one another, but I don't think we are incapable of living in a world where we accept those differences and begin to see how much we are really more the same. As for those people who like to cause harm, well in a healthy world they would be recognized in the community fairly early in life before they could do any harm to it, and then they would be marginalized and exiled if rehabilitation was not successful.

And by rehabilitation, I don't mean forced counseling, jail, or etc. I mean an honest attempt by those close to the individual to make a heartfelt plea that they reflect on their thoughts and actions and make changes for the better, and that if they don't the community will no longer interact with that individual, and they will have to find a new community, or face the consequences. This will not be a scare tactic in which you try to frighten the person into being a conscious individual. It will be a loving attempt to get them to truly understand the purity of good, over negativity. They will not be sent to jail if they do not comply. They will simply no longer receive support from their group, and I'm talking about mostly emotional support, because by this time I'm assuming that being able to live totally independently, physically, will be fairly easy.

Anyway, that's just some food for thought. I really don't have time to explain how it could all work, but c'mon, just use your imagination! Because I'm sorry, but your opinions are just pitiful. Yeah the world's FUCKED up right now, but to say that a better world is IMPOSSIBLE... Well with an attitude like that it is! Jeez..

To be fair though, we have a long way to go so I can see how you'd think that I guess, but we are just a young planet, coming into adulthood, and we've had some issues, but we're working on them. Also, while I do think that a better world is possible, without some sort of blessing in disguise like a plague or natural disaster that gets rid of all these confused people, I think we have a few more generations before we get there.

This world can be pretty perfect if you know how to enjoy it. This quote comes to mind:

"To different minds, the same world is a hell, and a heaven." -Ralph Waldo Emerson

For me, this is partially where psychedelics come in(though there are several other things in life that can have similar effects on a person). They help me look at this world as a heaven, and to experience the perfection around me and inside of me that's always available. The more we learn to integrate our journeys to hyperspace into our daily lives, the better we'll get at believing in and creating perfect moments, which when strung together can lead to a perfect world. I think people are ready and capable of creating a world without chaos, and that will partially mean un-creating the problems we've each brought into this world.



I agree with Chr0nn's take. There are loads of problems to be fixed, but focusing on the ones outside of your realm of influence generally isn't very helpful. It's good to be aware of the "big" problems, but you gotta work up to those from where you're at. Try to bring all you've got to the situations you're in. Bring your kindness, intelligence, thoughtfulness, imagination, etc. to your daily life. Find ways to make yourself happy, and bring your happiness and all your other strengths with you everywhere you can, and let that influence on your little circle of life reverberate outwards. Plus, if you have ideas of what would make the world more perfect, try 'em out. Have some balls and do something!

I totally believe a perfect world is possible, and that doesn't have to mean that it's the same for everybody. No matter what we do with our planet, no two people are experiencing the same world anyway, even though we're sharing various levels of our lives all the time. If we believe in impossible things and actually try to make them happen, then at worst we'll just get something that's "really good" instead of "miraculously perfect", and I'll take really good any day.

Word.

Until you can excise basic human nature and animal instinct from the human experience, there will be no perfect world. The question one must ask is, at that point is it really perfect?

Headspice got my point^.

chronic took me completely out of context and didnt get me at all. :/