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#21 Posted : 12/21/2011 11:55:24 PM

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I've always seen them as evil creatures, I have no clue as of why I interpret them that way but they do look quite sinister and their screech is just horrible.
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#22 Posted : 12/22/2011 1:49:17 AM

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i dont usually remember my dreams, sometimes when i wake up, i do, but they quickly fade.

a few years back i had an extremely vivid dream. i was walking down my childhood street. hopping next to me was a crow. it would flutter along, staying just a few yards away as i walked.

i came to a park bench, and sat down. the crow came closer, and hopped up on the arm rest. i slowly reached out toward it, and just as i touched it there was a huge spark of electricity surging thru my body as i woke up instantly, heart racing, body trembling.

i dont know if it was a crow or raven.
 
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#23 Posted : 12/22/2011 2:16:44 AM

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It's story time again!

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There is a medicine story that tells of Crow’s fascination with her own shadow. She kept looking at it, scratching it, pecking at it, until her shadow woke up and became alive. Then Crow’s shadow ate her. Crow is Dead Crow now.

Dead Crow is the Left-Handed Guardian. If you look deeply into Crow’s eye, you will have found the gateway to the supernatural. Crow knows the unknowable mysteries of creation and is the keeper of all sacred law.

Since Crow is the keeper of sacred law, Crow can bend the laws of the physical universe and “shape shift.” This ability is rare and unique. Few adepts exist in today’s world, and fewer still have mastered Crow’s art of shape shifting. This art includes doubling, or being in two places at once time consciously; taking on another physical form, and becoming the “fly on the wall” to observe what is happening far away.

The Europeans that came to Turtle Island were named the “boat people” by Slow Turtle. Even with the knowledge of alchemy possessed by certain boat people, none had ever seen the powerful shape shifting of shamans who utilized Crow medicine. Many boat people were frightened by what appeared to be animals coming into their camps or dwellings to discern their medicine. Crow medicine people are masters of illusion.

All sacred texts are under the protection of Crow. Creator’s Book of Laws or Book of Seals is bound in Crow feathers. Crow feathers tell of spirit made flesh. Crow is also the protector of the “ogallah” or ancient records.

The Sacred Law Belts, or Wampum Belts, beaded by native women long before the boat people or Europeans came to this continent, contain knowledge of the Great Sprit’s laws, and are kept in the Black Lodges, the lodges of women. The law which states that “all things are born of women” is signified by Crow.

Children are taught to behave according to the rules of a particular culture. Most orthodox religious systems create a mandate concerning acceptable behavior within the context of worldly affairs. Do this and so, and you will go to heaven. Do thus and so, and you will go to hell. Different formulas for salvation are demanded by each “true faith.”

Human law is not the same as Sacred Law. More so than any other medicine, Crow sees that the physical world and even the spiritual world, as humanity interprets them, are an illusion. There are billions of worlds. There are an infinitude of creatures. Great Sprit is within all. If an individual obeys Crow’s perfect laws as given by the Creator, then at death he or she dies a Good Medicine death — going on to the next incarnation with a clear memory of his or her past.

Crow is an omen of change. Crow lives in the void and has no sense of time. The Ancient Chiefs tell us that Crow sees simultaneously the three fates – past, present, and future. Crow merges light and darkness, seeing both inner and outer reality.

If Crow medicine appears in your card spread, you must pause and reflect on how you see the laws of the Great Spirit in relation to the laws of humanity. Crow medicine signifies a firsthand knowledge of a higher order of right and wrong than indicated by the laws created in human culture. With Crow medicine, you speak in a powerful voice when addressing issues that for you seem out of harmony, out of balance, out of whack, or unjust.

Remember that Crow looks at the world with first one eye, then the other – cross-eyed. In the Mayan culture, cross-eyeds had the privilege and duty of looking into the future. You must put aside your fear of being a voice in the wilderness and “caw” the shots as you see them.

As you learn to allow your personal integrity to be your guide, your sense of feeling alone will vanish. Your personal will can then emerge so that you will stand in your truth. The prime path of true Crow people says to be mindful of your opinions and actions. Be willing to walk your talk, speak your truth, know your life’s mission, and balance past, present, and future in the now. Shape shift that old reality and become your future self. Allow the bending of physical laws to aid in creating the shape-shifted world of peace.
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#24 Posted : 12/22/2011 4:53:35 AM

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crow is also the one who brought the light to the world in the myths of some native tribes. Crow stole the light from an old man who kept in in a box all for himself, and when crow finally got ahold of the light he dropped it whiel flying away with it and it spread throughout the world and that is why we have the sunlight and dont live in a dark world.
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#25 Posted : 12/22/2011 6:27:49 AM

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#26 Posted : 12/22/2011 6:38:51 AM

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like in a lot of asian countries - i see em as luck most often
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...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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#27 Posted : 12/22/2011 6:44:11 AM

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nen888 wrote:
..groovy sounding sister Traveler..

there's a few smart crows here: Animal Intelligence: Birds that use Tools (video)
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ps. i love all the mythology too..very worldwide and similar from Nordic to the dreamtime...

nen888 - You and Trav beat me to it. That's good stuff! I recently saw a special on the New Calendonian (sp?) crow that has been observed to use not only A tool, but MULTIPLE tools to reach it's goal of getting food. I'll see if I can find the vid, but basically a crow used a short stick, tied to the end of a string hanging off a branch (Pulled the string up and got the stick loose), to grab a larger stick that was too far for its beak to reach, and used the larger stick to grab the food morsel it was after.

I believe in the comparison of brain size to body mass or brain size to body size, crow's are also proving to be one of the most intelligent mammals in the world.

Good stuff! I love this stuff!

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#28 Posted : 12/22/2011 7:38:50 AM

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Interesting you mention that. When I was a child I used to have dreams that trancended reality, in that I would be laying in bed and I couldn't make the distinction between when i fell asleep so I thought i was still awake laying in bed. One of these dreams started with me (thinking i was awake) looking under my covers only to find two extremely menacing red eyes. After seeing these eyes a red-eyed crow flew out from under my covers and started flying around the room screeching all evil like. When i awoke i was in the same place. Freaked me out for yearsPleased.
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#29 Posted : 12/22/2011 8:24:14 AM

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hehe crows are not mammals idtravlr
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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#30 Posted : 12/23/2011 1:25:17 AM

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Remember that Crow looks at the world with first one eye, then the other – cross-eyed. In the Mayan culture, cross-eyeds had the privilege and duty of looking into the future. You must put aside your fear of being a voice in the wilderness and “caw” the shots as you see them.

As you learn to allow your personal integrity to be your guide, your sense of feeling alone will vanish. Your personal will can then emerge so that you will stand in your truth. The prime path of true Crow people says to be mindful of your opinions and actions. Be willing to walk your talk, speak your truth, know your life’s mission, and balance past, present, and future in the now. Shape shift that old reality and become your future self. Allow the bending of physical laws to aid in creating the shape-shifted world of peace.


i like this, thanks.
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#31 Posted : 12/23/2011 1:38:52 AM

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One time, under the influence of no substance, i looked out my window, all the way across the street there were 2 crows sitting side by side on the chimney, they both looked in my direction and both of there heads turned to like green orbes, this gave the illusion to me as a a pair of eyes that were watching me, it did get me thinking for a while.
 
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#32 Posted : 12/23/2011 4:32:37 AM
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..dreamer042..thanks for the great dreamtime story^, i really enjoyed it..Smile
 
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#33 Posted : 12/23/2011 5:31:09 AM

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Crows and Ravens have an amazing sense of their surroundings and seem to have a sixth sense of perception. Back when I was a kid I was a deadeye with a pellet gun. Because I did not know any better at the time, i slaughtered a lot of birds. My friends and I all had the same thing happen when attempting to target Crows and Ravens. We would have them in our sites, they were not looking at us or in our direction, we would fire and they would hop up in the air and out of the way of the incoming pellet or take to the air and avoid getting hit. This did not happen 100% of the time, but at least 90% or more, which lead us to believe that somehow they knew they were in danger and acted to avoid it. They are definitely special animals and seem to have more of an awareness than lots of other birds and creatures. Dolphins and whales are also especially amazing in the animal world.
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#34 Posted : 12/23/2011 7:04:24 AM

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hehe crows are not mammals idtravlr


Damn. You're right. They are Aves. I stand corrected. I've always thought of birds as mammals. I guess I wasn't paying attention in 7th grade Life Sciences. Embarrased Thanks Phlux. So "...most intelligent animals..."

Mitakuye Oyasin - I know what you mean. If you've ever observed duck and goose hunters at work, you may have also noticed that these game birds tend to fly just out of the reach of the common shotgun when flying in open air. You can also watch them frequently & quite literally dodge & weave around the shot in mid flight.
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#35 Posted : 12/23/2011 3:16:47 PM

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Fascinating thread, crows seem to be extremely significant animals...

Crows are mentioned often in Buddhism, especially Tibetan disciplines. The Dharmapala (protector of the Dharma) Mahakala is represented by a crow in one of his physical/earthly forms. Avalokiteśvara/Chenrezig, who is reincarnated on Earth as the Dalai Lama, is often closely associated with the crow because it is said that when the first Dalai Lama was born, robbers attacked the family home. The parents fled and were unable to get to the infant Lama in time. When they returned the next morning expecting the worst, they found their home untouched, and a pair of crows were caring for the Dalai Lama. It is believed that crows heralded the birth of the First, Seventh, Eighth, Twelfth and Fourteenth Lamas, the latter being the current Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso.

Something strange that i have noticed is that when ever I see a dead bird it seems to be a symbolic meaning of intense change within my life, from my experience birds are incredibly important to take note of. They also seem to sense and be drawn towards happiness as a few times while watering the garden i have had birds energetically land on my shoulders, which would leave me in complete awe of these beautiful and magnificent creatures.


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#36 Posted : 12/23/2011 4:56:24 PM
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Beautiful stories. Crows are wonderfull creatures, like their close relatives, ravens.

Some species of birds are not only realy smart and social, but they realy seem to have a personality as well..like humans.

I had a parrot once, that was found in chad, wounded. During the years i took care of it, i can realy say there was a sort of friendship between me and the bird, like you can also have with a dog or a cat.
 
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#37 Posted : 12/24/2011 2:04:59 AM
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..from http://www.crowbusters.com/facts.htm
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Crows reach sexual maturity at two years of age but sometimes do not breed until later in their life. They are one of a few bird species that exhibit “cooperative breeding behavior” i.e. they will help to feed the incubating female, feed the nestlings and fledglings, defend the nest and keep watch over members of their family. They mate for life unless one is killed or incapacitated.

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#38 Posted : 12/24/2011 8:24:15 AM

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So, an interesting thing happened the other day and I immediately thought of this thread:

I was walking downtown near where I work and there was a flock of pigeons eating seed off of the street. As I was walking by they suddenly, seemingly for no reason, all blasted off into flight. I was literally about 5 meters away from them and it actually startled me a bit. As I did a double-take to see what might have frightened them, I saw that a single crow had landed right in the middle of the flock of pigeons. I found it of interest that 20 - 30 pigeons would unquestionably give up their feeding to one, single crow, without any sort of fight.

Interesting on the mating habits nen888. Another specie of bird that mates for life and shares parental duties. There seems to be a trend.

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#39 Posted : 12/24/2011 12:19:48 PM

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Thought this may be relivent here... From one of the great writers / artist of our recent past.

The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn of the Crow
~William Blake~

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#40 Posted : 12/26/2011 2:35:12 PM

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i really enjoyed that dreamtime story Dreamer042, thanks for posting it Smile
since that experience ive not seen any more crows or had interactions with any.
who knows what that was about... if it happens again, i'll wave a little bit and say hello i guess.

idtravlr wrote:
As I did a double-take to see what might have frightened them, I saw that a single crow had landed right in the middle of the flock of pigeons. I found it of interest that 20 - 30 pigeons would unquestionably give up their feeding to one, single crow, without any sort of fight.

nice story. the pigeons probably know something we dont. maybe crows really do have some other-worldly powers or something like that...

i never knew that crows were monogamous. kind of sweet Smile

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