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Wax
#1 Posted : 12/23/2011 10:46:03 PM

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Introducing someone to psychedelics isn't just as simple as handing over a full pipe or baggie full of goodies and saying "go for it"
It is a very touchy subject that deserves special attention on the part of the introducer.
I've had a lot of internal conflict about introducing people to DMT and other entheogens.

First of all I don't want to be the one to cause undo fear or apprehension by saying "Careful this stuff will knock your socks off, and make you question everything you've ever known."
But I also don't want to be a source of naivety by saying "Just take a toke and see what happens for yourself."
I find it is a fine line between informing someone about the potential effects of the substance and producing some sort of anxiety about their world being blown off the hinges.
Personally I feel that if they are not aware of the power of these things it is reckless not to inform them about how powerful they can be.

I am not saying that I go around introducing DMT to all kinds of people with no background in substance use or people that haven't shown a genuine interest in the compound.
I have only introduced close friends that are experienced in psychedelics and that have asked me to try it.
I just feel that by me being so honest about it and telling them to be prepared for something so intense it might feel like they have died and are witnessing the birth of existence and the obliteration of matter all at once may influence their experience negatively.
But its true!

I may be too worried about it because none of the people I introduce have had a full breakthrough or reported anything negative but I would like to know how the wise beings of the nexus go about it for future reference.
Also I am not just asking about DMT but all entheogens. I would ESPECIALLY like to know how you all would go about introducing, lets say mushrooms to a psychedelic virgin.

I have had experience with mushrooms so I know I can tell them about the breathing walls, patterns...etc.
What I really want to know is how to explain the things like ego death and connection with the universe and what not without creeping someone out.
'Little spider weaves a wispy web, stumblin' through the woods it catches to my head. She crawls behind my ear and whispers secrets. Dragonfly whiz by and sings now teach it.'
 

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Aegle
#2 Posted : 12/23/2011 11:52:41 PM

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I would highly suggest that probably the best way to introduce someone to Spice would be to encourage them to make an account here at the Nexus, so that they can read about dmt as much as they possibly can. If they are still interested and keen perhaps gift them some bark and do your best to help them along their way and guide them with performing their own Spice extraction. If an individual has to work for their experience they will probably at the end of the day appreciate their first journey with Spice far more than if its just handed to them... Wink


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#3 Posted : 12/24/2011 12:03:16 AM

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Be honest about it. If they still wanna do it after they've heard their reasonable expectations (which should be have no expectations, but don't be surprised if it's wacky, visual, bizarre, alien, fantasy-like, strange, euphoric, terrifying, arousing, anesthetizing, intense, mellow, seemingly short/long, etc...), and after hearing the honest bit of both sides, if they're still willing to try it, then you may have yourself a keeper, or if they no longer want to do it after hearing some of the potentially negative aspects, just realize it's not for everybody, and perhaps they'll come around at some later time. Emphasis should also be placed on letting go, not resisting, and that everything will be back to normal in a matter of minutes (though it may take a few minutes longer than expected sometimes). They should be informed that no matter how far out they get, they will always come back, and reality will always reconstruct itself with or without (and mostly without) you.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

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#4 Posted : 12/24/2011 11:21:44 AM

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Take the example of Art as he gently introduces spice to uninformed newcomers:

Uncle Knucles wrote:
Ego death is a COMPLETE destruction of ALL existing reference points - not a lack of coherence or radically altered perspective on the self-image. It is the TOTAL annhilation of the "I", the COMPLETE dissolution into the experience, the transcendence of one's individual existence and rebirth AS THE EXPERIENCE ITSELF. The "I" is just shattered; nothing remains, except for the infinite landscape.

Uncle Knucles wrote:
The experience overall gets exponentially deeper the higher you go up in dosage. Breaking through is like a death; the rush is simply overwhelming. It's like drowning or being electrocuted, or some strange combination thereof. It's like a bomb going off in your fucking face. It's like flying into the sun.


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Wax
#5 Posted : 12/24/2011 6:05:28 PM

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Haha! What a soothing message Art Very happy
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#6 Posted : 12/26/2011 2:25:16 PM

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reading those messages by mr Uncle Knucles made me want to blastoff immediately.
so i did. all i can say is no matter what the dose this sacrament never fails to completely and utterly blow me away.

i dont think ill ever understand this gift we've been given. CAN it even be understood?
Gun it to 88...
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