Okay, in these tense times of snow and prohibitions...

I will take it upon myself to instigate what shall be a truly lively debate on the one subject that psychonauts inevitably ponder... and eventually will produce... whether they like it or not...

Psychoactive Urine.

Bam+! Oh yeah, I went there.

So what are you all gonna say now?

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(edit) Not to diffuse the provocative nature of my post, but I am really interested in hearing what you all think about the use of urine for entheogenic purposes. Safety, harm reduction, and all that goes with it...

P.S. This isn't such a huge taboo anymore is it?

I'm gonna say what I've always said. learn the fundamentals of chromatography, and how to use a column.

Basically all you've said is psychoactive urine. OK. What about it? Care to elaborate?

Amanitas. Siberia.


I think the body proccesses some of the narcotic/toxic alkaloids into the more psychedelic/good stuff alkaloids, so the urine of an amanita eater is actually better than the actual amanita.

I was at a rave in the late 90's and I remember this one candy kid telling me about his plan to drink his urine to extend his roll because of the unmetabolized mdma content. I just would of bought another pill, personally.

I would have enjoyed a few hours of wholesome (no alcohol, plenty of water)
rolling without trying to chase it.

I don't want to direct this flow...

Let it roll where it will.

I will just add that it is possible to get high on one's urine.

Whether or not that is a good idea, or a socially valuable thing to talk about in public...

lol



Err, this brings me back to my rave days -- can't say it was ever psychoactive - even after a couple pills and heavy dancing.

Then again, you can always set-up the kiddy pool and test for yourself... ;-)

No way, did alpha just confess having once tried something?

it's also possible for one to get "high" by holding one's breath and spinning in circles or autoerotic asphyxiation, but so what

You´re a funny guy HF.

I've edited the OP, and it is still a subject I think we can talk about rationally.

Seriously, I am curious as to what Nexians think about the recycling of alkaloids and whatnot that are clearly present in our piss.

Pros, cons... health benefits or warnings?

People actually do this, so we should probably address it.

I've never heard of anyone doing this for anything besides amanita muscaria

anyone care to say what other psychedelics this works with?

Honestly? I think anyone considering doing this may be a drug addict and should probably re-evaluate the reasons they are taking drugs in the first place.

Interesting topic, and one thats relevant to conventional medical practise for sometime ie HRT constituent hormones from equine piss and urokinase from human urine (more whatnot than alkaloids).But as Benzymes stated, some proper lab equipments definitely in order for doing such ventures optimally.

It would be a sad day indeed when the drunk chap lying on the floor of a nightclub ,facedown in human piss were to be charged with imbibing controlled substances!

As others have mentioned Amanita Muscarias actives are the best known of the substances that are used urophagically -good word, that!

Forget the urine its all about Jenkem!

What alkaloids are we theoretically taking about here?

Benz already said about chromatography, which is always the best way to separate and purify compounds from mixtures, but even for those who dont want to learn/invest in that, cant it be extracted with a typical A/B? Lets say there are some unmetabolized alkaloids in urine, and I added an acid, filtered well, based, pulled with organic solvent, evaporated/freeze precipitated (or salted, say, FASI/FASA), recrystallized if necessary.. Are there any dangerous or nasty chemicals that could come across appart from the wanted alkaloids?

And why would one be theoretically doing this? Lack of funds/supplies for extracting from plants ? Why not simply take more of alkaloids ?

What alkaloids are known to be eliminated unmetabolized or mostly at least, in urine (appart from muscimol) ? What is the concentration of these alkaloids in urine?

HF you said its possible, did you or someone close tried? What are the potential health risks?

Urine contains urea, great for growing food crops. Take a wee on your compost pile every once it awhile.


Or, if you are going to actually extract alkaloids from urine, do not consider the rest waste--it is valuable to your garden. Better yet, trying to get high off of excrement is almost as silly as the modern sewage system. Go build a composting toilet.

Urea is also a good ingredient in moisturizers. Keeps your skin smooth. I'd rather buy a readymade product though. I'd feel that urine extraction would be too messy.

So I swear I heard that the Native Americans would drink their urine after ingesting shrooms because not all it gets metabolized or something like that. Must have been a good source because I remember peeing in a jar and about to drink my own pee, and then the smell hit me and I was like F this.

Heard of tweekers letting their urine evaporate and this was suppose to leave behind meth residues and they would smoke this and tweek.

Also I have seen a T.V. program where drinking one's own pee is an accepted cultural practice. And really pee has nothing in it that can harm you, just don't eat your poop.