Didn't know if there was already a topic on this, let me know if there is and I'll remove this.

Anyways..I was doing a bit of voyaging yesterday with my friend. Loaded ~15mg spice for each of us and we took our turns.

My first try I took 3 deep and long inhales, with a fair bit of time in-between. The experience was definitely not satisfying and I only felt threshold effects. My friend did the same, and said he had some good CEV, but not so much of an experience.

I was a little bummed I wasted the rest of my spice so I cooked up the remaining resin and was surprised to see a very thick cloud of vapor appear. Instead of slowly taking it in I just let it cook more and more and more until the cloud was thick white and I inhaled it all as fast as I could and held it in until my body needed to breathe.

The results were..dramatically better. I was soon seeing in the distance of hyperspace an entity calling me to come with her, and communicating with me that she had something to show me on the other side.

This couldn't have been anymore than 10mg of resin, but the one toke fast inhalation made the world of difference in a much stronger experience.

So..does taking in your dose in one hit bring a new level of intensity to everyone else? Do you prefer this method or do you like to space out the hits for a smoother takeoff?

(I am aware that GVG users take their dose in one hit because the device is so effective at vaporizing)

Safe travels~

Consume your dose in one inhalation for maximum effects, but be warned, doses around 35mg or upwards taken thus can be quite overwhelming.I favour this approach every time.

SWIM always tries to milk it and rip it h.a.m. so yeah i would totally have to agree with that. looking forward to putting this good bit of information to use.

Thanks corpus, 15mg is enough for me to have fully immerse experiences and sometimes breakthroughs. Will be trying the one inhalation with those dose sometime soon.

Safe travels~

perhaps the spice was properly melted after the first hit, and you got much more in the second rip?

Yup, single toke is the only way to go IMHO - get 25 mg down yer neck hole in one go, that'll put hairs on yer chest

Lmao!

Getting it all as fast as you can will definitely produce more profound experiences. I also only use around 15mg and can have quite powerful experiences with the odd breakthrough here and there. I should also note that for some reason, the DMT-condensate (what you call resin) seems more potent to me than the fb I vaporize by weight. This sort of defies logic as far as I can take it, but it's what I've found in my experiences. You could argue it's placebo, but for me it's regularly so much stronger, that it's hard for me to keep telling myself that.

I would have to agree with you. IME the resin has had a much more profound effect on me. It also seems to produce much thicker vapor. Who knows

I used to load the spice up in a home made ''pisser'' bong. its just so easy and convenient this way
The pisser was construced of a 1.5 litre water bottle with a socket poked through the lid, and a small hole near the bottom of the bottle where the ''piss'' comes out lol. put a few screens in the bowl then sandwich some herb, fill the bottle with water while covering the hole, put the cap on, ignite and let go. you only need to tap the herb with the flame once or twice then it does the dirty work for you. you can then sit down and get comfy the let er rip. Break through almost always and the smoke actually is quite smooth this way also

lol

i prefer one hit as opposed to fiddling around with multiple ones.. wam, bam, thank you mam!

I find that smoking through a lung is highly effective. You get all the smoke from your dose in one quick hit which can be quite overwhelming.

^ yes I agree, very smooth too, the vapor/smoke gets nicely cooled.

Cool that you use lungs, I always thought that pulling lungs was strictly an east coast thing

Well I feel silly now, being an east coaster.. care to elaborate on the "lung?"

I'll point out that if a lung is what I think it is, you'll likely be losing a good deal of DMT over time as the vapor cools and condenses onto the lung. The more DMT that sticks will attract exponentially more DMT over time. It's not a linear relationship.

A lung is basically a cheap homemade, but extremely effective smoking device, mostly used and probably invented for smoking cannabis.

Heres kind of a strange picture, but enough to get the jist of the design.

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn...71_1881312_3507053_n.jpg

Basically a large bottle with the bottom cut off (either plastic 2L, or if you want to go fancy a glass one)
Then a securely attached plastic bag,
And on the top a makeshift bowl, Usually made with a socket from a socket wrench with a screen.

Then to use, you simply ignite the bowl while creating suction by pulling down the bag, this takes some getting used to, but us east coasters have skillz

Then you have a smoke filled bag, you then inhale in a quick burst after removing the bowl.
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Of course there are many drawbacks with this device, first being your smoking out of a device with a lot of plasic and who knows what, they can get pretty dirty and smelly pretty quick. It was more of a thing I did as a teenager.

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Global,

The lung is definitely not the most efficient method, but it is definitely an easy and effective way to get there, Using the leaf sand which method, it is no more efficient then the bong. In my experience, the same amount of changa or 50/50 enhanced leaf that I used in a bong, got me there with the lung, but only much faster..

When you use the lung instead of the bong, it hits you so fast you dont even feel the come up while inhaling...

Pff. Like it's restricted to the east coast! I was pulling weed lungs aged 15 here in the UK* Never tried spice with one though, sounds like it could be an excellent ROA, particularly if one fitted a GVG attachment or similar to the top for optimum vapage....
















*Purges does not condone the use of any drug at such a young age, but truth of the matter is that many of us had at least experimented by then