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Which would you consider the best maoi and why? Options
 
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#21 Posted : 12/16/2011 11:21:09 AM

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AluminumFoilRobots wrote:

@soulfood:
Well, isn't there most always some amount of liquid in the stomach? How would one go about getting a dry powder down without some kind of liquid lubricant (water, some such) that could hence be purged? Sorry, I wasn't trying to like call you out or anything, and I should have phrased it "nausea" rather than "purge"... because I see your point and with VERY LITTLE liquid in the gut, purging would definitely be harder... however, the nausea, whether or not I can purge it out, seems greatly increased (IME) from just taking the ground seeds.

I hope that I clarified myself...!


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Yeah, when I say purge I'm talking about some good ol' often projectile action.
 

Good quality Syrian rue (Peganum harmala) for an incredible price!
 
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#22 Posted : 12/16/2011 3:20:53 PM

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۩ wrote:

That said, I LOVE to smoke freebase syrian rue extract. Truly wonderful!


How many mgs of the extract do you smoke, and do you smoke it before fb/changa or do you smoke it simultaneously in the same pack?

jamie wrote:

Minxx also did want to use rue for a long time after reading all this bad stuff about it. We drank some one night, from a brew that was carefully prepared-well filtered and decanted 2 times after a few days. She did not find it any more sickening than caapi or any less of an experience. She did say that it gave the mimosa more of an Android Jones sort of vibe though.


Funny about the Android Jones thing. I had thought the same thing during a couple experiences, but didn't know how to vocalize it. For me, rue has this sort of alien, insectoid feel where caapi seems more jungle-like.
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#23 Posted : 12/16/2011 4:00:45 PM

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Global wrote:
How many mgs of the extract do you smoke, and do you smoke it before fb/changa or do you smoke it simultaneously in the same pack?


I like to smoke it in a different bowl than the spice. I never measure it, it isn't super potent. Just mix with whatever herbs, I find around 1:4 harmalas:herbs is a good mix. Too much harmalas and you get a chalky, chemically taste depending on the quality of the extract. It's easy enough to try. It works well with cannabis too, without any spice. I don't find it is worth the trouble to infuse into herbs with solvents. Herbs with spice is another matter, mixing dry doesn't work as well and you don't want to be wasteful, although I have melted spice into herbs plenty of times.
 
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#24 Posted : 12/17/2011 3:26:54 PM

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harmine is what i think is best
it has nice effects
caapi leaves are a good alk source ime
 
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#25 Posted : 12/19/2011 6:24:28 PM
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You don't have to be as careful with food and medication when using the syrian rue, right?
 
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#26 Posted : 12/28/2011 9:27:52 PM

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you dont have to be as careful with food with any RIMA. I really don't watch my diet, other than I don't eat flesh and generally am pretty healthy, and have never had any issues. I mean, other than violent purges when I tried with food in my stomach.

I still watch what drugs go into me, though.
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#27 Posted : 12/28/2011 10:14:54 PM

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nen888 wrote:
..favourite MAOI?..even though i've only had it 3 times at MAOI level, Passiflora incarnata..makes the tryptamine visions more colorful..
i'm growing her and looking forward to getting back with her..


So this does work, in fact? What quantities are you using to achieve MAO inhibition? I've been interested to work with P.Incarnata, but due to people saying that you need to use insane quantities (like 400g+), I stopped researching it.
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#28 Posted : 12/28/2011 10:37:37 PM

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illerrre wrote:
You don't have to be as careful with food and medication when using the syrian rue, right?


You dont have to worry about tyramine with a RIMA like rue..you have to worry about some medications though, and some foods can be seen as both a food and a medication..for example if you eat too much dark chocolate with rue you might find the stimulant effects of the cacao are boosted 2-3 times, and personally I find cacao to be a full blown psychedelic at times with harmalas invovled..sort of like mescaline-not as visual but very similar phen buzz with alot of stimulation..other medications can be fatal with harmalas...

Same goes for coffee, cannabis..other psychs/stimulants etc..harmalas will potentiate alot of things way beyond what you may be comfortable dealing with. I did this to myself 2 weeks ago. I had drunk ayahuasca in the daytime and then after I had come down that night I went to my parents for my fathers birthday..Minxx and I brought some really strong chocolate we made with cacao and I started to eat it..the harmalas were def still active in me becasue I started to flip out..felt like I took a dose of MDMA and I had to rice it out with like 40 people there all drinking around me. Ahh it was a good night though..just be careful about taking stims etc a few hours after harmalas. If you usually have a cup of coffee, maybe take 1/4 cup etc.
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#29 Posted : 12/29/2011 12:35:53 AM

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^^^^^

for sure watch caffeine/stimulant use. I usually enjoy larger doses of coffee/mate/guarana/tea, but have found that more than like half a cup of coffee at least 6 hours apart from the ingestion of RIMA's I get a splitting headache and uncomfortable anxiety/restlessness.

That's interesting about the cacao... I've only a few times noticed psychoactivity from cacao/chocolate, but think that it may have been due to dopamine/endorphin release (it was some bomb chocolate). I will have to try this with some nibs!
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#30 Posted : 12/29/2011 3:19:15 AM

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yeah you want the raw cacao nibs for the most psychoactive effects.
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