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#1 Posted : 12/15/2011 4:11:18 AM

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Ok to start off -- I just got done reading DMT: The Spirit Molecule.
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I have always been terrified to blastoff but more so since a session at the Werk Out this year where I ended up puking nd pretty much blacking out
(took a mild dose shortly after that and it was quite Eye opening) <-- I can elaborate more so if needed.

In it there is a chapter where Strassman pretty much states that the participants, for the most part, had no major long-term lifestyle changes.

So my question to you (especially the long time users) is how has the continued use of DMT helped better your life.

The sessions I've had had reaffirmed in my mind that there is more to reality than what meets these (2) eyes.
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Have given me a 'calming' more understanding sense of my life.

I guess in this thread I am looking for some positive stories or words of encouragement to help me take that step again. Embarrased

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#2 Posted : 12/15/2011 4:16:21 AM

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My use of psychedelics, not just DMT (but including) have led me to a more emotionally sound life, and mature thought process in day to day living.
 
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#3 Posted : 12/15/2011 4:25:52 AM

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Remembering to breathe is a huge one. More than any yoga practice or book or whatever, DMT has taught me that your breath is your best friend and you need to honor that friendship. Same with the heartbeat. Whenever I'm depressed or pissed off, I can remember how precious my breath is and how the fact that my heart beats automatically is the greatest invention ever and it was literally a gift that was given to me by someone else.

Another big one is that for a while I got pretty solipsistic and applied delusions of messianic grandeur on my own everyday life. I assumed that everything I saw, heard or experienced was a carefully orchestrated message intended only for me, every interaction with people was a metaphor for my own internal thoughts and habits, and particularly that there was a series of tasks I had to do in order for the planet to be saved. DMT taught me that I shouldn't get so worked up about it, that all the fantastical beings of creation have nothing but admiration for the "simple life" and they all work very hard to give us a chance to not have to worry about multiple dimensions or fractal DNA hyper-looms or anything. It's like a college student telling a 5th grader "Don't be in such a hurry to grow up. You have recess, for Pete's sake. I WISH I had recess."
 
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#4 Posted : 12/15/2011 4:32:08 AM

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I think it really depends on where you were before hand. I had low level depression and was un balanced in many areas.
Also I think that you have to use it with an intention for help you. You can not just take it and expect things to change you have to change them yourself.

Maybe a hospital setting is not the way to integrate DMT and changes into your lifestyle. I can say hand on heart that I am happier and more content with where I am in life after taking DMT than where I was before.

I don't take it all the time, I probably have a weeks between dosing. I also you it as a reward system. I plan my trips out. This weekend I have the opportunity to make Caapi tea and then ingest DMT. I use this to motivate me to work well and be happy all week before hand. Setting up my mind set if I have been productive at work, moved my life onwards. Been social and talked to my friends and family ensure that I have at peace before I take DMT.

In this way it has changed my life and will continue to do so. You make the bigger changes not DMT.

I do believe that DMT does change your outlook on life and depending on where you were before hand that could change your personality. The sample size in the Strassman tests where so small. Maybe all of them didn't have any mental issues before hand and got little out of the experience.
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#5 Posted : 12/15/2011 4:34:22 AM

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I cannot vouch for longterm DMT use, but my recent use of DMT and long term history of other psychedelics has definitely affected my emotional life in a positive way as Sky Motion mentioned.
It has also allowed me to become more aware of deeper aspects of everyday life such as a rise in empathy.
Seeing problems in a more creative manner also seems to be influenced positively by these substances.

To address your hesitation to re enter hyperspace, I am also having similar fears but have recently had success with just taking it easy and doing small doses as well as harmalas and meditation before hand.
Also it helps if you tell yourself that nothing can hurt you and you will always come right back, its just like a dream.
Be sure to be comfortable and it helps to not have a bunch of people around.

Good luck!
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#6 Posted : 12/15/2011 4:47:57 AM

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I agree that a hospital setting isn't the best setting -- though with a solid dose of DMT the setting isn't really a major deal.

However he does seem to hint that most subjects say they experienced some sort of change (maybe @ the subconscious level?)

Before the negative experience I never really used it on the reg as well
My last trip was kind of 'pushed' on me.
I tend to want to be alone and in a quiet/comfortable environment.

I think I may do a mild dose sometime soon and save my next heroic for when i feel i NEED it.

but let's keep this discussion going!
 
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#7 Posted : 12/15/2011 9:44:10 AM

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At this stage of the journey, it has left me with more questions than answers. It did make me more humble - so much so that I am now unable to dominate and lead people. I don't follow either. I'm kinda neutral and hate it when others tell me what to do and also despise doing the same to others.

I just want to live and let live.
 
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#8 Posted : 12/15/2011 10:21:41 AM

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bait_ wrote:
I agree that a hospital setting isn't the best setting -- though with a solid dose of DMT the setting isn't really a major deal.


i would say that the higher the dose the more important set/setting become, for heroic doses you have got to be in the right place or very quickly you will be transported to the wrong place, at least thats my experience.

I think that alot of the volunteers for the Strassman study were long time/experienced psychedelic users, this made me think that maybe the changes afforded by psychedelics had already taken effect in there lives and this is why no long term change was seen or reported

dtrypt wrote:
At this stage of the journey, it has left me with more questions than answers.


im with you on this one, since my first day discovery i feel more informed but more confused than ever
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#9 Posted : 12/15/2011 11:09:36 AM
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I have grown "spiritually" and have better ability to deal with fear that sometimes pops up in life.
I think the change is gradual and it always blesses one with something new, even through possible "bad" journeys.
 
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#10 Posted : 12/15/2011 2:44:56 PM

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For the moment I have stopped using dmt. I used it for about a year fairly regularly though not excessively. The most intense and educational experiences I had were with pharma and they gave me some valuable advice that it took me months to put into practice, and I'm still working on it. During this year I was using various psychedelics to follow a sensation that many here call the "call".. a sensation of feeling the need to search for something, to change something, to transform yourself etc. And to fuel this with psychedelics.

I went through a phase that lasted for several months of extreme darkness, working through all the things in my life that I didn't like. And in the process made a few decisions that cahnged and will continue to change my life within the next few months. The darkness passed and I am left feeling excited about the path that is in front of me, especially since I feel like I am choosing to walk it on my own, rather than drifting without having a say. Which was not the case before.

So what I can say is that my work with psychedelics, born from the need to transform, aided me in just this - transformation. Whether this is for the best in the long run... well I suppose this depends on how you would define success and all that. Since it is impossible to predict what will happen, the only measure I have for now is how I feel, and in this respect I would say things have improved much.

They say (whoever 'they' are) that there is a unique path and energy for every soul, and that when you are on this path, no matter what hardships accompany you, you will feel whole and at one with yourself. If there is any truth to this concept, then as far as I can judge I would say dmt played a role in helping me come closer to this path. I won't say it was the ONLY thing that helped, nor that it was necessarily essential (I have no proof either way). However it did play its role. It had an impact on my life, which I value and believe was positive, even if some of the experiences weren't obviously so.

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#11 Posted : 12/15/2011 3:14:40 PM

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Thanks to DMT (oral&smoked) plus other psychedelics, I find myself more: responsible, humble, balanced, friendly, patient. Their greatest gift for me was the practice of meditation, that helped me overcome my frustrations and fear of death.
 
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#12 Posted : 12/15/2011 4:15:12 PM

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#13 Posted : 12/15/2011 4:30:35 PM

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Bait_ wrote :"How does DMT affect your everyday life"?

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#14 Posted : 1/9/2012 4:12:56 AM

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it made all the "important" things in life (financial obligations, life plans, most other worries) trivialities because in the end you will die and when you do it instantly doesn't matter. that and i am inexplicably more contemplative at all times and more open minded.
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A few more threads to give you inspiration:
What has DMT/Ayahuasca done for you?
What has it done for you?
 
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#16 Posted : 1/9/2012 10:37:32 AM

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It affects my every day life because I think about it every day. I mean... How could you not once you have sampled what this stuff has to offer?!

But yes, a more in depth summary is in one of those other threads Smile
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#17 Posted : 1/9/2012 1:09:48 PM

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bait_ wrote:
Ok to start off -- I just got done reading DMT: The Spirit Molecule.
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I have always been terrified to blastoff but more so since a session at the Werk Out this year where I ended up puking nd pretty much blacking out
(took a mild dose shortly after that and it was quite Eye opening) <-- I can elaborate more so if needed.

In it there is a chapter where Strassman pretty much states that the participants, for the most part, had no major long-term lifestyle changes.

So my question to you (especially the long time users) is how has the continued use of DMT helped better your life.

The sessions I've had had reaffirmed in my mind that there is more to reality than what meets these (2) eyes.
&
Have given me a 'calming' more understanding sense of my life.

I guess in this thread I am looking for some positive stories or words of encouragement to help me take that step again. Embarrased

Thanks Y'All!


I haven't read the Spirit Molecule in some time now so forgive me if my memory on it is a bit hazy, but whilst I don't remember Strassman saying that (nor do I obviously deny that he did say that they didn't have any major long-term lifestyle changes), I do recall that a number of them created their "support group" of some kind and that there were a number of them who were atheists going in and not coming out as well as a number of them who changed their views on death which they were able to take more comfort in than their current atheistic views. I would say that all of these things sort of point to long-term lifestyle changes or at least the beginnings of which.

As for myself, well let's see. I'm much more patient. I'm more honest (I have a much harder time lying now than I did before). Before DMT, I was agnostic, and I'm still agnostic, but because of two encounters with the godhead, my sense of probabilities on the subject have shifted. I don't know what happens when you die, but I've made peace with however it goes; if there's reincarnation lying ahead, I can deal with that, if it's some afterlife limbo, I can deal with that too, or if it turns out that nothing happens when you die, and you just dissolve into nothingness, I'm ok with that too. No matter how many insights we think we get on death, we ultimately can't know what's gonna happen till it does, so while it may be fun to speculate, I don't fret about it too much, cause when it happens it happens, and it's not like there's anything you can do to change what's gonna happen anyway, so I'll worry about that time when death comes knocking at my door.

It's made me an incredibly more positive person. DMT has facilitated a shift in perspective where I can take practically any negative experience, glean something positive out of it and discard the rest. I still allow myself to feel anger, sadness, grief, etc, but once I've allowed myself to feel those emotions, I just keep the positive aspects and move on. It applies to practically any area of my everyday life. If there's a crappy song for example, but there's a good part here or there, I can listen for all the parts I find pleasing while tuning out the rest, whereas a lot of my friends simply wouldn't listen to the song at all if they don't like even one element about it. I'm also more likely to make a decision that might inconvenience me that I know will make others happy, whereas I'd be much less likely to make that kind of decision in the past. The list of changes to my every day life goes on and on, as more and more things keep popping into my head, but I can go on for a while, and I already talk about me enough as it is already, so I'll leave it at that for now Wink
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#18 Posted : 1/9/2012 1:33:27 PM

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dmt has not changed anything for me in my everyday life. perhaps an ayahuasca trip might, every time i smoke dmt i just end up feeling like i need more time to get the whole message. but before i smoked dmt i was not religious at all, i still am not but i keep getting intuitive messages about buddism while i smoke dmt, my last trip i actually became buddha and saw with his eyes. enlightened to the absolute fullest.. for just a moment.

everything else i see in my trips would be pointless to explain, i would just sound like a complete insane person. so i think ill just find a local buddha center around town and give it a shot. LSD gives me more long lasting effects of positivity, never tried shrooms. but deep down under it all i think once we find that enlightened spot we want to stay at. we should put the drugs down. thats my goal at least
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