Good to see we have some common ground. I agree that there is a certain unity in this universe, in that chain of events leads to other chain of events, and that for example lots of individual parts make up a whole (for example the human body, consisting of trillions of individual cells). But to go from this (beautiful) but pretty obvious observation, to the more problematic one that we are all One, literally just One thing, is for me quite a leap when we clearly see how distinct certain parts of the universe are from other parts. If we accept the Big Bang, then sure everything was pretty much One, but it is not so anymore.

As a last note, that whole "everything is One" idea is pretty vague anyway.

But to go from this (beautiful) but pretty obvious observation, to the more problematic one that we are all One, literally just One thing, is for me quite a leap when we clearly see how distinct certain parts of the universe are from other parts

I agree, that this is mostly wordgames. But as a philosophical standpoint basing itself on scientific fact, I don't see the declaration "We are One" as invalid.



I don't see how the fact that we "clearly see how distint certain parts of the universe are from other parts" is any more a proof than any other perception (a psychedelic experience, for example). I may be wrong, but I think science as an institution still hasn't come to a conclusion as to what are the main indivisible components of our universe.

As of now the smallest indivisible objects are the quarks, for the record. It may be possible to smash these further up, but it seems unlikely. However, String Theory suggests other things, for example that everything are made of vibrating strings (you should search it up for more info, I am on my phone and actually busy right now). But there is still not any Oneness, is it?

...have any of you had a TOTAL God Awakening, in which everything disappeared, and you realized you were the only One? That you were the devil and the gods, justice and fate, all creating an experience to distract God (You) from the ultimate knowing of Yourself? Everyone in Life is just a hyper-reflection of One. It is a feeling of bliss and agony fused together in a never-ending moment of death and re-birth....I have had plenty of 'breakthroughs' so to speak, but only two of this utter magnitude. They were one after another in a span of 3 days. Anyone experience this, and if so, please share your experience with the rest of the forum. We are evolving, it is time we speak of the Truth and the Meaning.

To each their own, man. You're just speaking semantics.

I have experienced this, it is pretty remarkable indeed. But do I ascribe it to some truth about the universe based on this drug induced experience? No, I don't, and I suggest you don't either. Keep it real man, take it easy =)

Well, your beliefs are wrong. We are not one with everything just because you "smoked God to experience God", which sounds absolutely ridiculous anyway. I urge you to get some distance from your experiences, and try to remain rational when contemplating their nature.

I had an experience (which I’ve posted about at least several times), where I became aware that what I ordinarily call reality is a dream. I also realized that once fully awake, there is no returning to the dream – at least not this particular dream. I wasn’t ready for that, and so I willed myself back to sleep. I don’t believe that a living human being can have a true awakening and live to tell about it.

As a last note, that whole "everything is One" idea is pretty vague anyway

When one's mind is shaken into an empty stasis, thoughtlessness, and one's awareness is still cognizant of existence, such a unified realization is inevitable. Of course, this happens post-peaking, only when the mind begins to weave labels and conceptual formats again. So, I applaud you desire to communicate about The Awakening of The Omniself.

To perceive of the indivisibility of Spirit is a gift and cannot be achieved through reason, discovered while still asleep, nor proven to those who have had not had an immersion within The Clear Light of the Void... it can, however, be lived in the moment and known directly. This evidenced by many, many kindred souls, who in their transcendental revelations have praised this singularity of being, above all other noble ideas.

Yes, hundreds and hundreds of times but whose counting? Honestly, of the 600+ psychedelic experiences that have passed before my internal witness, more than 95% of them included entheogen-induced states of spiritual awakening. Essentially, that state of momentary ego dissolution, which humanity terms, "enlightenment". And sure, we come down from the high, as it is a chemical reaction in our systems. Every eclipse has it's ascending and descending cycle. Like the amazing 1970's rock band YES sang, "I get up... I get down... I get up... I get down..."

This is hardly to suggest that this same Omniscient blossoming has not occurred in more gentle and graduated ways, on numerous occasions, in sober states of meditation. There is, however, nothing so powerful and expedited, as the respectful imbibing of Sacred Medicines.

I do like your analogy of God smoking God, to experience God (as all being and oneself). Ram Das/Richard Alpert mentions a similar idea in one of his first three books, I just forget which one, as it's been over 33 years now since I read his works and passed them on. It was a reference to a bright young human being, who was watching his mother breast-feeding one of his infant siblings, and had a spontaneous awakening. The statement was that it was like watching, "God drinking God out of God". The boy simply perceived an elevated perception of the sameness of the essential energy which flowed through all three forms and despite the appearance of separations within the time-space-continuum, in truth there is but one being. To see it is to know it.

When one's mind is shaken into an empty stasis, thoughtlessness, and one's awareness is still cognizant of existence, such a unified realization is inevitable. Of course, this happens post-peaking, only when the mind begins to weave labels and conceptual formats again. So, I applaud you desire to communicate about The Awakening of The Omniself.

To perceive of the indivisibility of Spirit is a gift and cannot be achieved through reason, discovered while still asleep, nor proven to those who have not had an immersion within The Clear Light of the Void... it can, however, be lived in the moment and known directly. This evidenced by many, many kindred souls, who in their transcendental revelations have praised this singularity of being, above all other noble ideas.



Now, now... realistically, all communication is an exchange of semantics. Our discussions are always bound by linguistics and the subjective interpretation of one's very perceptual parameters. Yet, we can and DO find significant ways to interrelate with other earthlings about such profound experiences. Words alone fall far shy of the mark. With proper training in concentration, of exercising intent and practicing the development of one's focus upon one single point of unwavering awareness... all need for the illusion of duality crumbles, as the mirage of self-hood is blown away like cosmic dust (temporarily, mind you).

So, my stance on this issue is that it's a wonderful exchange, to share this vibe. A nonverbal aspect of understanding is saturated into one's individuated mind, with respect for The Undifferentiated Unity of all existent being. Ideally, with the careful use of language, despite it's frequent failings, much can be communicated through words and ideas. That is, provided those who wish to hear the message receive it. Again, "to each their own".



We all have a unique perspective about this phenomenon, Oneness, so it behooves us to make a polite effort to try and see through another's lens of perception. None of us, arguably, can state that others of us are either right or wrong. Nor can we even claim our stance is founded in sanity or for that matter, insanity, for it's all relative to the circumstances which define the state of mind being experienced through ego-self. As we all are well aware of, reality is completely subjective.

Neither do I suggest that your opinion on the matter is "wrong", for I do not dream through your mind's eye. Belief in the all-pervasiveness of The One doesn't invalidate the myriad views into the fabric of reality, it encompasses each and yet, transcends their limitations as a cohesive whole.

IMO, there is no need for intolerant debate or condescending derision. Conversation can be a useful endeavor, so I really do respect your deductions. I do not agree with them, as I believe they are inadequate means to bridge the gap into a transcendental state of mind. Rationale cannot initiate conscious union with the One. Irrationale is equally useless in the face of The Cosmic Force. Only through spiritual instinct and the cultivation of intuition, can the minds of humankind pierce the veil of the ego-self's dream. Only when the mind become filled with the light of truth, can the eclipsing dawn.

I humbly suggest that there is nothing ridiculous about perceiving "God smoking God" to interphase with The Godhead. One can experience similar levels of awareness through pranayama and deep meditation. Regardless of our perception of the unity, cannot we each find common ground and respect our diversification of thoughts on the issue? I suspect it is our efforts to seek some balanced semblance of unity (or fusion) in our vantage points, which prompted by the author of this topic to post this thread? Sure, we can all privately experience these states of being but... there is a significant need arising, to share our Vision Quests. I do feel that we can speak in more polite, loving and open-minded ways. Yes? We can all agree to disagree, if we are kind in the ensuing process.

I think we have long ago, come to the stalemate, whereby we all understand that the theory of The Divine or The Unified Field of Being, cannot be proven to any others. It is a personal realization and not an equation, which can be communicated or reproduced through reason. It is a subjective perception that in turn, consumes the subjectivity of the individuated witness to it's existence and superimposes it's Light through the mind of the dreamer (throughout the awakening). That Indivisible force which initiates quantum fluctuations... Omniscience. Cant there be no field of study which aims towards an Omni-Science? It is a reasonable supposition to many Nexian's way of thinking.

The insubstantial cannot be measured or quantified to human standards or limited by dualistic notions. The very act of maintaining a logical mental state, creates a barrier to the immersion into The Godhead. The mind must be still to fully merge and one's cherished subjectivity must be shattered, stopping the mind, to become aware that all is essentially Divine.



So true, for were we to become fully and permanently awake... this dream of sentient existence would be understood as a fleeting possibility, within an infinity of limitless possibilities. Even the Buddha remained housed within a physical form, after The Great Awakening. I have come to believe that each dream of self is dissipated by our evolution through our material paradigm. I prefer not to speculate about any structured order or pragmatic progression to the unraveling of our material dream of self. NDE, extreme fasting or sensory deprivation, psychedelia and even the inexplicable phenomenon of spontaneous enlightenment, do indeed indicate pathways to such a shift in awareness.

Death will scatter our ideas into the Void, as they are linked to our physical brains and only truly exist within the dichotomy of the physical universe. Psychedelics gift us a preview of dying. Thankfully for our friends and family, we retain our human bodies, for we have come to the understanding that we are not eternally bound by matter. We are timeless, formless being, freely flowing through endless changes. I don't speculate why, I just intuit that we will never know through our pragmatic rationale, for logic will be gone... and without a witness to The Dance, all is an Infinity of Divine radiance, pulsing with cycles of expansion and contraction. :idea:

I know what the OP is talking about, I know the feeling exactly.

We are the creator.

What do you do if you are god, you can do everything, be everywhere, know all, what do you do?

..You make yourself forget you are god.

Take a break, from the throne and divinity, and cast yourself into a world of trial and tribulations, without the knowledge as to why it's taking place, and then once the "safe house" from "godliness" no longer provides a safe haven, we all will return to our original core of being, and realized there's not 7 billion souls that will be flying around in space once the planet dies..

..There'll be one divine being that was represented in 7 billion different ways on the planet.

"As above, so below.":idea:

Your post reminded me of a quote from a book I just finished reading:

"What better way for God to know himself than to divide his awareness so that he can observe objectively as creator and subjectively as creation?"

The author also talks about how many esoteric philosophies refer to "us" as being thoughts in the Mind of God- "objects" that "Consciousness-Without-An-Object" has been imagining for eons:

"One of the first things we learn is that emanation consists of a hierarchy of awareness. The Kabbalah explains that the Ein-Sof (Logos, Brahman, whatever) made ten emanations called Sephiroth, vessels to contain the light (consciousness) pouring into them from Consciousness-Without-An-Object's imagination. These vessels weren't able to contain this outpouring, and in what Kabbalists describe as a "cosmic catastrophy", the vessels shattered in into innumerable pieces and scattered throughout the realms of hyperspace, each fragment containing a spark of divine light (that's us). The main task of every Kabbalist is to "raise the sparks" of his or her own separated consciouness to reunite with the Ein-Sof that emanated them."

-The Cracking Tower, by Jim DeKorne

(This sounds to me like a metaphor for the "Big Bang".):idea:

Just what would the name of the Authoer/Book be?

Want it want it want it!! lol

have any of you had a TOTAL God Awakening, in which everything disappeared, and you realized you were the only One? That you were the devil and the gods, justice and fate, all creating an experience to distract God (You) from the ultimate knowing of Yourself?