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I hope it passes. The sooner laws like that are made, the sooner the people revolt. Bring on the revolution! Life is art.
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PrimateSphinx wrote:I'm pretty sure American citizens still had right to a "fair" trial before this bill was passed. Anwar al-Awlaki was an American citizen killed by a CIA drone authorized by Obama's administration. "'Most men will not swιm before they are able to.' Is not that witty? Naturally, they won't swιm! They are born for the solid earth, not for the water. And naturally they won't think. They are made for life, not for thought. Yes, and he who thinks, what's more, he who makes thought his business, he may go far in it, but he has bartered the solid earth for the water all the same, and one day he will drown."
— Hermann Hesse
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The Rhythmic Dúnedain
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The Chr0nn01553ur wrote:I hope it passes. The sooner laws like that are made, the sooner the people revolt. Bring on the revolution! that's a pretty dangerous assumption man. I mean i want a revolution to start and america to fall as much as the next guy but its pretty hard to revolt from a prison cell. I'd rather not sign over any more of my rights to those who are already eager to take them anyway. That's pretty scary vovin about obama having 20000 troops trained for civil disobedience. I would definitely agree that this is the next big step though in our evolution, and there isn't much the powers that be can do to stop it no matter how hard they try. As always i'm waiting for the mothership soldier:"sir the peasants are revolting!" king: "They've always been revolting now they're rebelling" What are we but stupefied dancers to a discordant stystem, we believe - so we're mislead
we assume - so we're played
we confide - so we're deceived
we trust - so we're betrayed
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The Rhythmic Dúnedain
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easyrider wrote:PrimateSphinx wrote:I'm pretty sure American citizens still had right to a "fair" trial before this bill was passed. Anwar al-Awlaki was an American citizen killed by a CIA drone authorized by Obama's administration. I have no doubt that the US Gov't was killing people without fair trials before this bill was passed. I just meant that the judicial system (fucked up though it may be) was still being used for a lot of trials. It seems to me that this bill seeks to undermine the entire judicial system which in theory (definitely not reality) is a good thing about america. What are we but stupefied dancers to a discordant stystem, we believe - so we're mislead
we assume - so we're played
we confide - so we're deceived
we trust - so we're betrayed
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vovin wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmzTqHOfVvE&feature=player_embedded The sad thing is police are already so militarized we pretty much already have an army on our streets.
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you should read some of the stories that pop up here: http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/it's like the news uncensored. If you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing.
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The Rhythmic Dúnedain
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That's really scary vovin. I wouldn't be surprise if instead of soldiers in cammo they sent Storm Troopers and sith warriors. All hail Darth Obama What are we but stupefied dancers to a discordant stystem, we believe - so we're mislead
we assume - so we're played
we confide - so we're deceived
we trust - so we're betrayed
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Obama isnt running the show I can guarantee you that. He's not been a politician for near as many years nor does he have anywhere near the power the real big dogs in washington have that stem from families of politicians dating back 100 plus years. The real power in DC isnt seen by the naked eye. Obama is a puppet just turns out he's just as dumb as bush. If you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing.
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The Rhythmic Dúnedain
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yeah i don't think obama is running the show either I just never hesitate to make a star wars reference. I would move to canada if i weren't 100% broke and if I didn't consider this place so much my home. Its going to be a very interesting 2012. I just hope a lot of people don't end up getting hurt, myself included. like i said, waiting for the mothership... What are we but stupefied dancers to a discordant stystem, we believe - so we're mislead
we assume - so we're played
we confide - so we're deceived
we trust - so we're betrayed
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Is it Hebeus Corpus or Hebeas Corpus? "You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness."
— Terence McKenna
"They Say It helps when you close yours eyes cowboy"
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DoctorMantus wrote:Is it Hebeus Corpus or Hebeas Corpus? It's habeas corpus. "'Most men will not swιm before they are able to.' Is not that witty? Naturally, they won't swιm! They are born for the solid earth, not for the water. And naturally they won't think. They are made for life, not for thought. Yes, and he who thinks, what's more, he who makes thought his business, he may go far in it, but he has bartered the solid earth for the water all the same, and one day he will drown."
— Hermann Hesse
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I think they are underestimating the ability of citizens to organize and resist oppression. All it takes is an easily understandable metaphor that makes the people realize this is no different than British occupation in the 16/1700's. Theres too many armed us citizens, if the shit hits the fan, local militias will form and it will be VERY difficult to control the population. Remember theres a hell of a lot of americans already pissed off, and if they go balls to the wall authoritarianism/martial law, i can't see them being the ones coming out on top. 20,000k trained military troops vs. a ragtag multi-million strong militia, i know where my bet is. The scary thing, is what comes out of that civil chaos, and what type of leaders a revolution would throw up. I'm just saying they're crazy if they try to declare martial law following an economic collapse or false flag. Theres plenty of patriots in the US Military that i'm sure would not cooperate with orders form the top if a scenario like that arises. "let those who have talked to the elves, find each other and band together" -TMK
In a society in which nearly everybody is dominated by somebody else's mind or by a disembodied mind, it becomes increasingly difficult to learn the truth about the activities of governments and corporations, about the quality or value of products, or about the health of one's own place and economy.
In such a society, also, our private economies will depend less upon the private ownership of real, usable property, and more upon property that is institutional and abstract, beyond individual control, such as money, insurance policies, certificates of deposit, stocks, etc. And as our private economies become more abstract, the mutual, free helps and pleasures of family and community life will be supplanted by a kind of displaced citizenship and by commerce with impersonal and self-interested suppliers...
The great enemy of freedom is the alignment of political power with wealth. This alignment destroys the commonwealth - that is, the natural wealth of localities and the local economies of household, neighborhood, and community - and so destroys democracy, of which the commonwealth is the foundation and practical means.” - Wendell Berry
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They will not win they will not oppress us face it when Americans think they are getting screwed we get rather mean and violent. The issue is will it be a revolution wherein the greatness of man is shown or will we be living in mad max time where your all my bitches. There are a lot of Americans with a lot of guns in the rural regions I know for a fact the hillbillys wont go easily. The big deal for the revolution if it is done right you will have the whole world supporting you in overthrowing the government. If you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing.
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vovin wrote:There are a lot of Americans with a lot of guns in the rural regions I know for a fact the hillbillys wont go easily. There's a difference between the yokels of the past and the yokels of modern day, though. The descendants of scalawags and carpetbaggers direct the mentality of Southerners now, save for an uncompromising minority. The GOP base consists of zombies brainwashed by chicken-hawks, sycophants, and special interest groups. The rebel spirit is dead, because somewhere along the way, being pro-government became synonymous with being patriotic. Surely, this doesn't mean that revolution is impossible; after all, only 1/3 of the population of the 13 colonies favored a revolution against King George III. It would be incredibly difficult, though, because of our advanced technocracy which would enable military police to squash the opposition. "'Most men will not swιm before they are able to.' Is not that witty? Naturally, they won't swιm! They are born for the solid earth, not for the water. And naturally they won't think. They are made for life, not for thought. Yes, and he who thinks, what's more, he who makes thought his business, he may go far in it, but he has bartered the solid earth for the water all the same, and one day he will drown."
— Hermann Hesse
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actualfactual wrote:PrimateSphinx wrote:actualfactual wrote:No, we did not just get officially fucked over. In the US for a bill to become a law it must be passed in both houses of congress and signed by the president. This was passed only in the senate. this is true but do you really have faith in in congress, the house, and the president to uphold your rights? hate to be a cynic but they don't have the greatest track record of doing this. And gracias The Chr0nn01553ur, like your avatar btw The white house already said obama would veto the bill if it ever came to his desk. I don't think he is lying. That rabbit hole runs deep. I highly suggest reading this article. It's a long one but worth it. Congress endorsing military detention, a new AUMFConvert a melodic element into a rhythmic element...
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The Rhythmic Dúnedain
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It seems that the rabbit hole does run pretty deep Melodic. I know that we're not supposed to talk about conspiracies here but it seems our "overlords" have some not so nice things planned for us that are currently in the works. Like tele said land of the free my ass. All I can say is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9uuPza41UwWhat are we but stupefied dancers to a discordant stystem, we believe - so we're mislead
we assume - so we're played
we confide - so we're deceived
we trust - so we're betrayed
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Rennasauce Man
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easyrider wrote:vovin wrote:There are a lot of Americans with a lot of guns in the rural regions I know for a fact the hillbillys wont go easily. There's a difference between the yokels of the past and the yokels of modern day, though. The descendants of scalawags and carpetbaggers direct the mentality of Southerners now, save for an uncompromising minority. The GOP base consists of zombies brainwashed by chicken-hawks, sycophants, and special interest groups. The rebel spirit is dead, because somewhere along the way, being pro-government became synonymous with being patriotic. Surely, this doesn't mean that revolution is impossible; after all, only 1/3 of the population of the 13 colonies favored a revolution against King George III. It would be incredibly difficult, though, because of our advanced technocracy which would enable military police to squash the opposition. Yes, they would definitely have a huge military advantage over militias, but the question is, could a disinformation war of such magnitude be devised to keep the majority of people out of the streets in mass protest? I think if the shit hits the fan, its going to go viral and people will know and be able to SEE the terrible things our gov is "presumably" willing to do to its own citizens. Once you have 90+ percent of the population in the streets demanding an end to the gov. aggression, i think that will be the turning point. People will wake up to the fact that the US gov is NOT representative of its citizens. Make them aware of all the constitutional violations our gov has committed, unite them against a common enemy, and I'm sure there will be no massive retaliation against the citizens. That would truly be idiotic, and threaten our national security because it could potentially turn the whole world against the US gov, but not the citizens. Just like Egypt. "let those who have talked to the elves, find each other and band together" -TMK
In a society in which nearly everybody is dominated by somebody else's mind or by a disembodied mind, it becomes increasingly difficult to learn the truth about the activities of governments and corporations, about the quality or value of products, or about the health of one's own place and economy.
In such a society, also, our private economies will depend less upon the private ownership of real, usable property, and more upon property that is institutional and abstract, beyond individual control, such as money, insurance policies, certificates of deposit, stocks, etc. And as our private economies become more abstract, the mutual, free helps and pleasures of family and community life will be supplanted by a kind of displaced citizenship and by commerce with impersonal and self-interested suppliers...
The great enemy of freedom is the alignment of political power with wealth. This alignment destroys the commonwealth - that is, the natural wealth of localities and the local economies of household, neighborhood, and community - and so destroys democracy, of which the commonwealth is the foundation and practical means.” - Wendell Berry
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Melodic Catastrophe wrote: Excellent article! Thanks for the link, Greenwald hit the nail on the head. It is easy to against a bill when your administration is already playing by all the rules it proposes. This is just more or the same neocon policy that has been shoved down our throats consistently since 9/11.
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Hundreds remain jailed after Occupy LA raidIt's beginning... Let's see how long they stay locked up. Occupy protesters “branded” with UV inkI think the conspiracy theory rule needs to be changed. This stuff needs to be discussed openly and freely. Convert a melodic element into a rhythmic element...
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