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cookie dude
#1 Posted : 11/2/2011 3:08:42 PM
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Hello all, new to nexus and thought I'd share my experiences with my volcano.

I did a bit of a search on the internet about using a volcano for dmt and was surprised at how little info there was.

I know most of the foke here are very fond of their gvg's and they do sound great but since I already had a volcano it would be stupid not to use it.

I've been using a bit of wire wool in the chamber to place the dmt onto. I set the temp to max. 30mg will fill the turkey oven bag I use and is about 5-6 lungfuls.

Once the bag is full this is where the advantages of using a volcano come to light. Firstly, no lighter flame to worry about so no danger of fire.

I'm then able to lie down on the sofa while tooting from the bag. It normally takes about 3 lungfuls to blast off, but if I'm not quite there it is possible, to take another toot or 2 to make sure I get to hyperspace. This is something I'm sure I couldn't do with a lighter.

As a bonus, if I do still have a couple of lungfuls left in the bag on my return I can blast right off again before normal body movement has returned.

Hope this is hope to someone.Very happy

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#2 Posted : 11/2/2011 3:59:14 PM

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Well, great info, thanks for that! I have been wondering about it.
How about setting the right temperature, does it work precise enough so it won't burn your spice?
And because you mention only 30mg of spice, do you feel you need less spice because of the effectiveness of the vaporizing, or do you use 30mg when you use a normal pipe too?

You mention you used some wirewool for vaping the spice, on the internet i read the digital volcano comes with a metal screen, do you have the non digital version or is the included metal screen just not doing the job?

Again, thanks for sharing!

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#4 Posted : 11/2/2011 4:08:28 PM
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I have the old, non digital one.

I did try it set at the correct temp but it vaporised the dmt too slowly, so that once the bag was full not all the dmt had been vaped and I couldn't breakthrough. With it set on full it vapes much quicker but still doesn't burn and the bag is full of a much denser vapour.

As you may know you can get proper volcano wire pads to use with oil's and crystals, but I haven't got around to ordering any yet so am making do with the wire wool. The basic wire screen supplied would be no good for dmt.
 
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#5 Posted : 11/2/2011 4:13:46 PM
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Like I said not much info. First link has good info, second link is This thread and third has very little regarding the volcano.Wink
 
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#6 Posted : 11/2/2011 4:15:33 PM

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I would personally advise you use something else for DMT. Like a bong, for example.
 
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#7 Posted : 11/2/2011 4:34:43 PM
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۩ wrote:
I would personally advise you use something else for DMT. Like a bong, for example.


Can't see why I would need too. I already have the volcano and no longer have a bong.

With the volcano this easy to use with excellent results, what would be the advantage with using a bong?Confused
 
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#8 Posted : 11/2/2011 4:38:04 PM

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Breakthrough doses in 1 single hit without the need for a crinkly bag. Glad you found what works best for you.
 
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#9 Posted : 11/2/2011 5:01:57 PM

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Glad you found what works best for you.

Yes, that's what matters in the end, isn't it?
 
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#10 Posted : 11/26/2011 9:46:21 AM
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I've been doing some measuring and found the volcano to be an extremely efficient method of delivery over a whip vaporizer like a Vapezilla. As for the wool, I have had great success with just using duffed greens to soak up the goodness. On my analog volcano, I found 7-9 to be ideal temperature range. Sorry I do not have the actual temperatures handy and am too tired to look them up.
 
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#11 Posted : 11/26/2011 1:19:30 PM

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cookie dude wrote:
۩ wrote:
I would personally advise you use something else for DMT. Like a bong, for example.


Can't see why I would need too. I already have the volcano and no longer have a bong.

With the volcano this easy to use with excellent results, what would be the advantage with using a bong?Confused


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#12 Posted : 11/26/2011 3:37:57 PM

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Keep in mind that when you're keeping that DMT vapor in the bag for so long especially while you're in hyperspace, that the longer it's in the bag, the longer it will cool and condense onto the plastic bag and be wasted. Due to the low pressure in the bag, it's hard to take in the same amount of vapor in less breaths which can be critical to going further. I understand this is working well for you now, so as SpartanII said, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." However, you may find that as you try to trek deeper and deeper into hyperspace that the volcano may not be able to facilitate such journeys, at which point it may be wise to look into smoking it with something else. Then again, who even knows if this whole DMT thing is gonna work out for you anyway. If you get serious about it, and after 3 months or so, find that you're still at it, then perhaps you'll consider an "upgrade", because quite frankly even if "it ain't broke," you'd have no idea what you're missing out on with something like the GVG.
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cookie dude wrote:

I've been using a bit of wire wool in the chamber to place the dmt onto. I set the temp to max. 30mg will fill the turkey oven bag I use and is about 5-6 lungfuls.


Do you use steel wool? I would suggest trying the liquid pad or steel or copper mesh.

The thing with GVG is that you can clear the full dose in single inhalation with proper tecnique, and this is very important feature as I don't want to be taking more than one hit to reach breakthrough.
 
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#14 Posted : 11/28/2011 2:21:00 AM
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I've smoked DMT in my volcano a couple of times, and it sure is a very efficient way of smoking. Also the bag is nice to settle with on your couch or chair smoking without fire or effort.
However it's a lot of work to get to a breakthrough. About 6 tokes. That's why I'll get myself a GVG to get there in one puff, sounds a lot better.
 
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#15 Posted : 12/30/2011 1:19:46 AM
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I have a fair bit of experience relating to using a volcano for dmt. I think its an excellent way to go. First, its the least harsh method of "smoking" i've encountered hands down. i set my temps to around 180F (similar to cannabis)... I have found that it works best to put aprox 2-3 times your dose in it, fill the bag once, and clear it in three consecutive hits held for a longer duration than smoking. Save the next two bags for a friend or another experience. But WOW!!! Big time blastoffs similar to large bongloads! I almost want to suggest that this would be totally ideal for a changa blend... though i dont' know vape temps for hamalas etc....

needless to say, your coupler and bag setup get totally fried and stanky if you use them for other things, so investing in a dedicated setup is a must!
When it gets gunked from contaminants in your product, you'll have to clean it, I found a combination of heptane / acetone did the job pretty well, might even be able to recapture some freebase from the tailings...who knows. I definitely have seen crystalized dmt form on my mouthpiece and nozel, recaptured and revaped it with success.



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#16 Posted : 12/30/2011 1:20:19 AM
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I have a fair bit of experience relating to using a volcano for dmt. I think its an excellent way to go. First, its the least harsh method of "smoking" i've encountered hands down. i set my temps to around 180F (similar to cannabis)... I have found that it works best to put aprox 2-3 times your dose in it, fill the bag once, and clear it in three consecutive hits held for a longer duration than smoking. Save the next two bags for a friend or another experience. But WOW!!! Big time blastoffs similar to large bongloads! I almost want to suggest that this would be totally ideal for a changa blend... though i dont' know vape temps for hamalas etc....

needless to say, your coupler and bag setup get totally fried and stanky if you use them for other things, so investing in a dedicated setup is a must!
When it gets gunked from contaminants in your product, you'll have to clean it, I found a combination of heptane / acetone did the job pretty well, might even be able to recapture some freebase from the tailings...who knows. I definitely have seen crystalized dmt form on my mouthpiece and nozel, recaptured and revaped it with success.



my 2 cents...
 
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#17 Posted : 12/30/2011 2:11:00 AM

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Breakthrough doses in 1 single hit without the need for a crinkly bag. Glad you found what works best for you.

yeah i find a bong great for smoking dmt too. rarely need a second hit. and the smoke doesnt feel harsh at all i dunno what so many people are whingin bout Razz

 
 
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