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#1321 Posted : 11/25/2011 1:10:22 PM

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Am I idiot or are people tired of answering?
Simply put:
I just don't want sc in the freebase. Why sc would not crystallize in the fridge among dmt?
 

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#1322 Posted : 11/25/2011 4:48:11 PM

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Thats why you shouldnt add sodium carbonate to the dmt fumarate water, you first make a dilute solution and add a bit of that to the dmt fumarate solution till it stops cloudying. This will be enough to freebase/precipitate the dmt freebase (which isnt soluble in basic water, hence why it crystalizes), but it wont be enough to precipitate any sodium carbonate (because sodium carbonate is reasonably soluble in water even at fridge temperatures).

In any case you could wash your dmt freebase with dilute sodium carb solution, this would dissolve the sodium carb excess but should not dissolve the dmt freebase.

Just dont throw anything away till you're happy with your results Smile
 
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#1323 Posted : 11/29/2011 4:17:53 PM

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I'll be conducting my first A/B tek (q21q21's Fluffy White Funfest) and I have some questions. What is the consistency in this picture from the tek? I assume it's consistency #1, but I would like verification. I want to wait a whole 24 hours to proceed with the first pull in order to get 80-90% of the spice. So, should I create consistency #1 after the 24 hours or before? I ask this because I assume that it would become bone-dry after 24 hours. Also, should I saran wrap the bowl during the 24-hour wait? And will several pulls be necessary if I do the 24-hour wait? Could I use a glass syringe for the pulls instead of tilting the bowl to pour the naphtha ? Thank you, I'd appreciate the help.
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#1324 Posted : 12/10/2011 3:40:44 PM
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Hello to everyone
I found alot of helpfull information on this forum.Now I decided to join in hope you could help me.I made extraction with nomans tek the yeild was good and everything what I was wondering I found very hard scraping product from collection jar at the end would be possible that next time I freze solution in large glass pan so it would be easier to collect instead in collection jars or that would be imposible and crystallization wouldnt occure?

I used 110g of bark and 0.4ml naptha per g of root
 
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#1325 Posted : 12/10/2011 11:47:36 PM

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Yes its possible, but how will you close it? You dont want your freezer stinking of solvent, specially if you plan to have food there in the future.

Another option is to use a small amount of hot naphtha to redissolve the crystals after freezing and letting it evaporate in a flat glass pan. The slower it evaps the better. Freeze precipitation will have already cleaned it up nicely, and like this youll have nice clean crystals that are easy to scrape.
 
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#1326 Posted : 12/11/2011 5:50:37 PM
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endlessness wrote:
Yes its possible, but how will you close it? You dont want your freezer stinking of solvent, specially if you plan to have food there in the future.

Another option is to use a small amount of hot naphtha to redissolve the crystals after freezing and letting it evaporate in a flat glass pan. The slower it evaps the better. Freeze precipitation will have already cleaned it up nicely, and like this youll have nice clean crystals that are easy to scrape.


With few layers of plastic foil or something or I will buy especially for this something appropriate.I though that it wouldn freeze enough if all was in one large pan

And yes at the begining once I basify the solution could I filter out root is that possible or there is still some of it in the root,happened once that it stoppered the separatory funnel and with next pulls I just left some residue in the jar before separating.ž

And I was thinking the best way to mix jars would be magnetic stirrer,agree?

Would be a bigger yeild if I used heptane or hexane for extraction since dmt is better soluble in?
 
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#1327 Posted : 12/12/2011 1:13:29 AM

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I used this extraction method: (3 minute video) http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a3e_1240357483

After reading through quite a few pages on here it seems as though people do a lot more than it shows on the video!

What other process do people add to the method used on the video? and why?
 
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^Please see the DMT-Nexus wiki at the top of the page for tried and true teks.

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#1329 Posted : 12/13/2011 1:27:06 PM
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Hey guys, I need help for collecting Mimosa Hostilis root barks.

First of all, how do i identify the tree? I think i got that tree grown in the garden, i check alot of pic on internet and it sure looks the same (the leave close at night too), located in Australia. Any kind of mimosa hostilis work? I even got a bigger mimosa look liked tree but the leaf is much much bigger, the leaf also sleeps at night.

secondly, how do I collect the root barks? I mean, do i have to dry it or oven it? or i can use the fresh inner=root barks. and only the inner bark contain? and just discard everything else?

looking forward for answers, thx
 
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#1330 Posted : 12/13/2011 1:51:32 PM

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I think it's rather unlikely the tree in your backyard is mimosa hostilis. There are many mimosa trees. Most of them do not contain DMT.

Since you are in austrailia, you would have better luck hunting certain acacia species. Check out the thread "Trying to improve acacia information" for more info on which ones to look for.

I'm pretty sure you can just strip a bit of bark from the tree (not too much, don't want to hurt it.)
 
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#1331 Posted : 12/13/2011 9:53:56 PM
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thanx!
I have up on Acacias because they are too many of them and all look alike, n i have no idea how to identify them without the flower, but flower season is not up yet.

When u say strip it from the tree, u mean, dig a hole, find the root, get rid of the outer bark, and start collect the inner bark when the root is attached to the tree? do u know where i can have more info regards to collecting root bark. Thank for all ur info hey, i'll start looking in acacia's breed.

ps. the root bark has to be dried? or fresh will work as well?
 
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#1332 Posted : 12/18/2011 1:17:06 AM
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my name is marc and i am determined to eventually extract dmt. i would like the help or any person experienced in extracting dmt who has had a full blown dmt trip. Here is my problem:

i use a plastic canadian tire turkey baster, a 4L hot pepper jar shredded mimosa, lye and a wooden spoon to stir the lye in order to dissolve it and so that the granules don't stick together and become rock hard in the water (problem is that the spoon gets eaten away at when i stir). i do 4 pulls turning the jar 4 times each and then i turkey baste pull the vm and p into a mason jar and then into a ceramic tray with the same turkey baster (i use both the mason jar and the ceramic tray in order to leave behind all the black stuff) i freeze precipitate in a freezer without a lid on the tray and then pour off all the naptha after 24 hours leaving all the white crystals stuck to the bottom of the tray/dish. then i turn the dish over and put it into the freezer upside down to let any left over naptha fall out of the dish. after keeping the dish in the freezer for half an hour it turn it right side up and leave it in the fridge for 24 hours and then what i get is...

way too many crystals and its not quite dmt though some hallucinogenic effects.

note to reader: i don't sanitize the containers i use very well and would like to know if this is what is causing my problems.
ALSO, MY SPICE ENDS UP WITH FROST ON IT IN SOME SPOTS AND I DON'T LIKE THAT ONE BIT!
 
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#1333 Posted : 12/18/2011 2:41:03 AM
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I found answers on forum I would just like to know with STB once I basify the solution could I filter out root is that possible or there is still some of it in the root because it stoppered the separatory funnel?
 
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#1334 Posted : 12/19/2011 11:14:32 AM

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no, dont filter the solution in an STB, only in an A/B on the acid phase.
 
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#1335 Posted : 12/19/2011 11:16:54 AM

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uhapšen wrote:


And I was thinking the best way to mix jars would be magnetic stirrer,agree?

Would be a bigger yeild if I used heptane or hexane for extraction since dmt is better soluble in?


Yeah magnetic stirrer is best way to mix but simple stirring works fine. Heptane or hexane are equivalent to naphtha, all are pretty selective to dmt. For bigger yield, either warm up the later pulls and mix them up very thoroughly for long (and keep pulling as long as theres still dmt coming), or also look into extracting with limonene/xylene.
 
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#1336 Posted : 12/26/2011 6:51:17 PM
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Namaste nexians!

I've got a lot of FASW saturated with DMT and it takes forever to evap it. If I put it in the oven, would that be a shortcut to reducing the amount I need to evap? I'm worried the DMT would just evap along with the water... because the last time I boiled DMT water, I was getting high off the steam...
 
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An oven on low with a fan blowing in is a good way to evap FASW (Note, this is for water, NOT for flammable solvents)
 
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#1338 Posted : 12/26/2011 7:30:39 PM
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Cool, thanks...

When you say, a fan blowing in, do you mean to keep the oven door open?

And I suppose microwaving is out of the question?
 
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Yes to the open door, and not sure about the microwave. I wouldn't risk it, that sounds like rushing it.
 
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#1340 Posted : 12/26/2011 9:09:19 PM


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Won't the microwave boil such a small amount of liquid in no time at all - which is pretty dangerous?

http://www.health.food-r...er-in-a-microwave-01.htm
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