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CosmikDebris
#1 Posted : 11/24/2011 6:17:57 AM

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My dog keeps asking me this question and I have insufficient knowledge on the topic. Any thoughts, experience or suggestions?
 

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#2 Posted : 11/24/2011 6:45:10 AM

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What is it exactly that your dog is trying to know about.

Spice?

If so tell him to try 30mg for start, if that is not enough try 40 or 50mg, but your dog should not have to exceed that amount.
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#3 Posted : 11/24/2011 8:55:07 AM

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I would say 15-20 to start, then work your way up from there.
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#4 Posted : 11/24/2011 9:58:52 AM

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Purges is Right Lower is probably a better start.
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#5 Posted : 11/25/2011 3:35:06 PM
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I would agree a low dose is best - you can always add to it another time
My 1st time I probably did as little as 10mgs and that was enough for wonderful visuals even now 20mgs is about my limit after 6-7 tries and I get amazing eyesopen /closed visuals, always a feminine presence and a calm feeling which I know if i was on acid or schrooms |I woudlnt have purely because of the mind blowing fraculise movie playing in my head - am thinking about going for a breakthrough next time but with the stuff i have which seems pretty strong I reckon 30 mgs ought to do it
 
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#6 Posted : 11/25/2011 3:56:19 PM

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Low is the way to go. SWIM started on 5mg then moved up to 10, 15, the 20 and now 30.

You can dose 5mg and then wait an hour and dose again if you want. Also SWIM stayed at one dose a few times before moving up to the next level.

say 5 then 10, 15, 15, 15, 20, 20, 20, 30

Just to get to know the effects and get comfortable with them before moving up the chain. Unless there are other pressures why rush?

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start with 10 to 20mg max and then if you get comfortable with it go up by 5mg. You need good .001 scale for this.
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#8 Posted : 11/25/2011 11:09:23 PM
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I started with 50mg. Wow.
 
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#9 Posted : 11/25/2011 11:16:23 PM

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Sub-breakthrough doses tend to be uncomfortable for many, I think a good starting dose with the bong/leaf bed method is 30mg.
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#10 Posted : 12/1/2011 5:07:52 AM

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great suggestions. I think my dog said she had a GVG. Sorry, she didn't tell me that until just now...
 
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#11 Posted : 12/1/2011 5:40:01 AM

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starting small is a good idea, especially for dogs but be careful of going so small that she just feels a bit weird, all my pets tell me the small doses make them feel uneasy.
 
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#12 Posted : 12/1/2011 12:00:14 PM
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A close friend of mine says " to go all the way your first time -- 50mg. It'll hit you hard, fast, and introduce you into a new world. When learning a new language and culture, the best way is to plunge right into the society. You've come this far, no point tip-toeing. But, I suppose that depends on your motivation. Recreationally, lower dose is prob the way to go. I just have a habit of assuming everyone into this substance is an explorer like myself."

My friend is pretty reckless. That crazy old man in a young person's body.
 
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#13 Posted : 12/1/2011 12:26:30 PM

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NoBody wrote:
A close friend of mine says " to go all the way your first time -- 50mg. It'll hit you hard, fast, and introduce you into a new world. When learning a new language and culture, the best way is to plunge right into the society. You've come this far, no point tip-toeing. But, I suppose that depends on your motivation. Recreationally, lower dose is prob the way to go. I just have a habit of assuming everyone into this substance is an explorer like myself."

My friend is pretty reckless. That crazy old man in a young person's body.


The problem that may arise with such a large first dose is that it could scare one away from spice for good. 50mg, if smoked correctly, is way too much for a first timer IMO. DMT isn't going anywhere, so i suggest getting familiar with the molecule before making the plunge.
 
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NoBody wrote:
A close friend of mine says " to go all the way your first time -- 50mg. It'll hit you hard, fast, and introduce you into a new world. When learning a new language and culture, the best way is to plunge right into the society. You've come this far, no point tip-toeing. But, I suppose that depends on your motivation. Recreationally, lower dose is prob the way to go. I just have a habit of assuming everyone into this substance is an explorer like myself."

My friend is pretty reckless. That crazy old man in a young person's body.


with all respect this is a very bad advice. this amount properly vaped in GVG may scare you so bad you will never do it again. 50mg is way too much. start low maybe 20mg and make your way up by adding 5mg after you get comfortable with dose . no need to rush anywhere.
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#15 Posted : 12/1/2011 2:12:55 PM

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My dose is 30 MG , more than 50MG can be overwhelming
i sometimes smoke 10-20mg for fun "no breakthough "
just start with 30 MG
 
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cyberdream wrote:
My dose is 30 MG , more than 50MG can be overwhelming
i sometimes smoke 10-20mg for fun "no breakthough "
just start with 30 MG


You are obviously having either huge tolerance or lousy smoking device!

With proper pipe such as GVG there is no need to go over 30mg which is high dose, especially if taken in single inhalation.

10mg is a good start if you have a proper pipe such as GVG. Then increase by 3-5mg each time until you reach 25-30mg. There's no need to go over 30mg if your tecnique is good and you take it all in single inhalation.

Lousy pipe will require more DMT for the same effects.
 
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^ that , plus I find it very disrespectful to smoke spice just for fun.
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^ that , plus I find it very disrespectful to smoke spice just for fun.


A hell yea I agree.

The fun part is something that comes with the journey sometimes by itself(If it isn't "dark"Twisted Evil )... Not a plain reason to smoke DMT IMO. If one wants fun one should look for other substances, weed MDMA and cocaine are some of them... Drugs... DMT is magic.Wink
There's nothing wrong with having fun, but to smoke DMT JUST to have fun... A no way to use the holiest of the holy I think.
 
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#19 Posted : 12/1/2011 6:01:00 PM

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Yeeks, some of these dosage suggestions are a little scary! 20 mg will often be an intense breakthrough for me, particularly with sufficient ego softening before using meditation and occasionally cannabis. I have yet to go over 30 mg with the GVG and I find these experiences to be overwhelming, I tend to get more out of the 20-25mg range to be honest, but, YMMV, do what feels right for you Smile
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#20 Posted : 12/1/2011 6:54:37 PM

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I think 20mg in one inhalation is a good dose;if you are a little more cautious then 15mg seems reasonable.One inhalation is, IMO, the way to proceed.40mg or more taken this way is a different experience altogether when compared to the 20mg ventures, and one would be wise to gradually build up your dose till you find your preferred level of experience.Anything above 40mg in one breath via the GVG is alot more than most would ever need, remarkable as such experiences are.
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