Oh yeah...I forgot...meditation is GOOD. jundalini yoga BAAAAAAAAD. Now I bathe in relevance!
That's all.

I am sure these are related, It just depends on how intune we are and what chakras we are focusing on seeing/feeling. I find the blue/purple flame common before I meditate, and as I meditate the colors cycle throught the chakra zones i'm addressing. I've seen red, blue, purple, orange, yellow. I have yet to experience a crown chakra activation, which I've heard is bright light or gold/silver aura. Ive gone as far as the peneal gland purple/blue activation and entered a sub-hyperspace almost as if astral projecting but at a lesser degree still. Before sleep I like to do a 10step meditation activation of my pineal gland and purple chakra. It doesnt always work, I find myself dozing to sleep from being too relaxed. lol.

There is a third color that I dont get to tap into much, its a teal/aqua aura directly linked to the peneal gland and psychic ability, through my meditations I cant seem to fully grasp the psychic element, instead I somehow find a way to bridge the throat chakra (creativeness/truth) to the spiritual purple chakra. My psychic abilities are really foggy I need to find a way to open it more.

to my understanding the colors/chakras are this:

Purple- Spirit & Enlightenment - crown
Teal/Aqua - Psychic - third eye
Dark Blue - Creativeness/ Truth - throat
Green - Emotions - heart
Yellow - Survival / Instinct - solar plex
Orange - Inner issues, child issues - sacral
Red - Power, Sex, materialism - root

I'll go into a headspace, but not quite hyperspace! Lucid dreaming is wonderful when you learn how to do it. My first lucid dream happened when I dreamt about being in a VAST old style library (and when I say vast, I mean small city in size) and for some reason i noticed "hold on.... im dreaming?" Consciously decided to stay in the environment my head had created for me and picked up a book on a shelf, and they was a large array of books that seemed to document every detail of my life from childhood, inc memories that had long since been forgotten, and as I read through them I remembered silly things like what I had to eat on a particular morning when I was 7. Walked into a door next to the shelves of me and went down some stairs, just going with it, and then I just slipped back into dreaming. I think this was a representation in my mind of the Akashic records.

I've since learned how to lucid dream deliberately and is one of the most wonderful experiences i've ever learned to open up to

I am able to reach these types of headspace as well, I know its different from hyperspace because its calm and collect, there isnt a buzzing sense to everything and ite more like closed circuit television instead of the info-highway known as hyperspace.

I find myself in a HUGE library or some kind of library or mosque, the walls are all stained white like old ivory, outlined in faint gold etchings everywhere, the surrounding light is a yellowish/orange. I found myself visiting this place alot and feeling totally safe and at peace. Does this sound like where you have been?

I believe we can even meat others on this astral plain. Ive been trying to contact other astral projectors, I think I have, I need confirmation.

Confirmation can be rather difficult to achieve, but certainly not impossible. I have been able to independently confirm a fairly substantial number of shared lucid dream experiences. (sometimes I am lucid and the other person not)

I have also been able to lucid dream to actual Hyperspace and not merely dream realms and astral planes. Smoalking spice in a dream works. But I can even get there simply by willing it or teleporting there...

If you want to have any hope of confirming a meeting in any extra-corporeal realms, you have to keep a decent journal of your experiences, and cultivate a good number of friendships that involve regular sharing of dreams and journeys. You need to call up your friends after having met them in a dream (or elsewhere), and gently prod them to reveal the contents of what they were dreaming or experience at the time you met them.

Considering how poorly most people's dream recall is... and how few people have the ability to astral project volitionally... this might take a while. But if you stick with it, you might get to have that awesome and peculiar form of hairs standing on end that comes when you get your independent confirmation of these phenomena. It is rather mind-blowing.

I just wanted to put in my two cents on Kundalini yoga. I spent a summer doing Kundalini yoga twice a week and those sessions were astounding. My favorite sessions were when it was exceptionally hot and humid (no a/c in the studio). Never before had I ever in my life felt so present and in the moment. The best part of the session is the final meditation/comedown... I would drift off into space and even experienced shared visions with my friend. I don't know what would cause this, but Kundalini yoga is my favorite form. I am confussed by the dangers implied in Kundalini. Opening one's awareness and conciousness through active meditation has only been benificial for myself.

Who here does meditation? How would you compare it to psychedelics? Is it possible to get clear visuals and sounds?

This has been discussed recently , somebody might remember the name of the topic...

Meditating for an hour or so will not get you there. But i don´t completely want to dismiss the posibility of meditating yourself into hyperspace. If you´re a full-time meditator, like a budhist monk, it may be possible after years of training.

Meditation can lead to ecstatic states akin to but not totally identical to psychedelic states.
Euphoria, a floating feeling, the dissolution of the sense of self and the dissolution of the sense of division from the universe can all occur with both. You don't get the same sensory signal pathway alterations that tend to be unique to each molecule anyway, but there can be a lot of common aspects.

Can you meditate into hyperspace thread

I think all sorts of psychedelic experiences might be possible through meditation..ive had aya like experiences with it, for example, but I think the most useful and beneficial route for me is a combination of approaches

It would be interesting to go meditate judiciously for a few decades in a cave to see how that goes..But unfortunately I have a love affair with too many plants to go that long without them. Plus , IMO there's really no need to reinvent the spaceship, so to speak . I guess I see these things as teachers and symbiotic brain food.. And if I can run my body on the best fuel available, then i will. I still love sober meditation though and it's an integral part of my life

Which state do you find more helpful for everyday life and mind exploration: the meditative state or the chemical induced state?

Are there doors that can be opened through meditation?

Are they easy to close once they're opened? No sugar coating or downplaying please

When i close my eyes i see the color spectrum and if i focus and clear my mind, it starts to form into a helix tube.
If i smoke a tiny bit of weed i will enter hyperspace but its kind of different, its more picture formed light rather than fractal light, but its more overwhelming than a DMT experience.
Me personally, i am suppressing my spiritual development when it comes to meditation because sometimes things get to overwhelming.

Combine meditative practices with chemical catalysts and make up your own mind.

The "doors" opened through meditation alone are nothing compared to those where consciousness is overdriven by a catalyst or synergy of them.

These metaphorical doors that you speak of once opened do not shut nor do they exist any longer as opening means blowing them away into oblivion.

I don´t think anybody at the nexus has ever seriously tried to meditate into hyperspace (me neither btw). I would not dare to say that it´s not possible to get powerfull psychedelic effects from meditation if you´d completely dedicate yourself to meditating for 16 hours a day, year after year.

I´ve heard that budhist monks have the same brainwave patterns when they´re awake, as a normal person in deep sleep, just like a person under the influence of iboga.

So meditating into hyperspace, in your opinion, is meditating 16/24 365 / infinite ?
You are right, I have never tried this, nor do I think I ever will.

In my opinion they are just two different things. Thus I think comparing them is pointless.
Not that I don't think learning things like meditation, martial arts, and yoga isn't beneficial or psychedelic- I think they can be good foundations for people getting into DMT.

There are various ways to experience "psychedelic" effects without psychedelic use, but once again, I personally don't find them to be similar to anything I've ingested- especially not a high dose DMT "Hyperspace."
Maybe there are some people out there who can tap into hyperspace naturally, I am not one of them.

I also don't think brainwave patterns are an indication of anything like receptor activity. Brain states can exhibit same patterns due to states but substances could or could not be at play, whether endogenous or not.

What this comes down to is simply every method is different, so why not try them all and make up your own mind, find what works for you, and develop your own personal system of self reflection and expansion.

I can meditate into OBE's and lucid dreams but this takes practice and patience. Lots of time is needed, the key is to clear your mind. But fear can be a major factor since you have to change your bodies natural cycle making your body fall asleep while keeping you mind awake. You may experience shaking and shortness of breath with rapid heart beats. The key is to enter sleep paralysis.

It depends what you consider Hyperspace, I have meditated into "places" very failure to my Ayahuasca journeys, even meeting entities. If you want any tips or questions just ask. I look at meditation through an occult lens, and see my travels as the spirit world.

Can you please describe your OBE meditation? Sleep paralysis always gave me weird vortexual inverted vision in a windy loud explosive dimension- Only one time I was dancing on LSD when my awareness was projected about 15ft. above me and a crowd of people I could see us all then ZOOMED back in!

While OBE and lucid dreams are cool phenomena, they're still independent and unique-
Each displaying the eloquent pieces to a mysterious puzzle, showing off in their many facets and forms the possibilities.
Another good tip for staying in lucid dreams is consciously remaining calm. Excitement heightens the brain state thus yanking you from the state you were in before.
Wake up within and chillax instead of OMG YAY LUCID!

Even while having my face and skin sucked on by futuristic beings in melting stone temple ceremonies awake as ever in a dream- as weird as that was to experience, still absolutely nothing like hyperspace.

I think the example of meditating into hyperspace sober, for the most part, is like trying to make a salad with pieces of bread. That is, of course, unless you were actually a salad, then this argument is negated.

Well What part to describe? I usually meditate, into sleep paralysis, body becomes heavy, continuing on until my chest gets tight, shortness of breath, than my heart begins to beat rapid "possibly heart chakra", few minutes later my jaw began to chatter, and shake until I am pulled out of my body. Some times i am pulled out of my body and into my surroundings space, Other times I am pulled into another dimension, Each time it's different and I seem to have very little control over my surroundings. But if you want to know how I go about meditation or an exact experience I can tell you that too, I'm just not sure what you meant. Weather all this occurs in my subconscious mind or some high dimension it certainly is interesting to practice.

I'd like to say that this is possible without a shade of a doubt. How to produce it with consistency is presently unknown. This experience came totally out of the blue. No DMT or psychedelic usage for at least one year prior.

Throughout the entire interval daily meditation took place - morning and evening.
The combination of iboga and rue may be fatal due to SSRI-MAOI interactions. These were calculated and well planned doses fine tuned to one's own experience & biochemistry.

15g iboga root bark was administered to a friend of a friend's pet diplodocus spread over a 2 week period; T - 6 weeks to T - 4 weeks.
7g of ground capped syrian rue was administered daily over a further 2 week period; T - 2 weeks.
One week of cleansing/fasting; T - 1 week
One week of low-intensity holotropic breathing (unfortunately our diplodocus smoked like Thomas the Tank Engine through this period making breathing laboured)

It was noted that upon commencement of holotropic breathing the familiar feelings of intense lightness & euphoria pervaded the body; definite hyperspacial activation characterised by orangey-red gridlike geometric patterns, thought detachment and mild ego loss

Blast off
Nightfall came. Our diplodocus lay down to go to sleep but something was berry berry different. Green-blue vine/tendril like forms characteristic of low dose mimosahuasca replaced the usual random geometric patterns one would observe at this time. White flashes from the third eye jumped out of the visual field and would dance around - a subtle knowing directed one to consciously make these flashes orbit the visual field and hit each other. When they hit each other they would bounce into the spaghetti-like tendrils which then turned purple and more geometric than vine-like. The web of tendrils jumped closer to the perceiver and increased in intensity and would do so each time the white flashes were successfully directed back to their origin.

After three iterations, WOOOSH. The chrysanthemum appears and the perciever is annhilated. Upon reconstruction of the self one finds themselves in a lucid dream surrounded by pigs and cats. For some eerie reason one had the urge to feed these creatures with some feed that coincidentally happened to be around. Upon doing so the vibrations became exceedingly intense with the knowing that one would go through another veil to a deeper level of hyper-dreamspace. Unfortunately at this point the perceiver accidentally summoned an extremely dark entity who SHAZZAMed directly in front of him and proceeded to scream its balls off. Colours again turned into the familiar red-orange gridwork characteristic of Alex-Grey artwork: the entity seemed to be trying to pass into this side of the space from the other side of the veil but couldn't quite get through, to bittersweet comical effect. While no real fear was experienced, at this point the perceiver essentially shat hyperspace bricks and terminated the experience. Afterglow reported complete with residual visuals and an acute case of whattheflyingfuckjusthappenedtome-itis.


Note to pet diplodocus: Next time you spontaneously enter hyperspace, DO NOT accidentally summon satan.