I would not at all recommend getting spice from others unless you're cool with possible, likely permanent physical brain damage from either: a) the spice being tainted with nasty chemicals remaining after an impure extraction or b)it not being spice at all and being something far worse, like meth.

It is possible to get meth masquerading as spice. I have known people who have passed meth along the line, all the while thinking it was spice. I knew one dude who even got hooked on it and fried about a ga-jillion brain cells before someone else had to point out what it really was. That dude's still kinda weird to this day. Meth does that.

This happens mainly because most responsible users of psychedelics would never touch meth, and therefore have no clue of the warning signs to look for in the buzz or the physical appearance in order to differentiate the two. Of course this leaves a huge vulnerability for those looking for spice with no meth knowledge, hence why the site and most in the know recommend you stay far away from acquiring any crystalline substances from someone else.

Granted it is possible to get really good stuff from someone else, but you'd better do this being very serious about the legitimate dangers of doing so, and you better literally trust them with your life. Anything less and you're asking for serious trouble.

I think it would be best just to go after aya in order to really play it safe.

Ultimately, be safe.

Had something similar happening on Salvia some years ago. It was quite distressing at first, but my sober friend let me known through body language that it was ok. I stopped trying to communicate verbally and had an interesting experience.

It's a strange thing, the easy repression of the salvia journey. It happens to me every time - After being done with it, I tend to just forget the startlingly unpleasant sensations and revisit it only to remember, "ooooh yeah... this shit again!" It comes back to me so vivid - always the same. The echoes-echoes-echoes-echoes. One of the reasons that Beksinski artwork really strikes a nerve for me in regards to Salvia.



I find the biggest aid in fact in exploring "deeper" is to abandon language and explore with pure thought.

I believe that "breakthroughs" are actually available without substances for most children. They are only just getting used to viewing the world through the focused lens of language. I've heard many reports, including from distinguished writers, about their childhood experiences slipping into "the other realm". My own mother has her own stories as well - it involved thinking without words, and pondering, like a mantra, the nature of time - to truthfully ask in your mind "what is now?" and "where is here?"

We get so confined by the patterns of language in our lives that we lose this ability. But our minds somehow have access to that "other place" all the time.

This happened to my husband July 2010.

We had both eaten 1 gram of extracted psilocin and the trip immediately built up to him physically rolling around all over the ground, the grass, the leaves, the earth and then manically marching, chanting, laughing and speaking in a type of glossolalia for an extended period of time.

This went on for about four hours. I was an observer for this, although I was also under the influence. The setting was a large property in a rural town surrounded by a river and many historic trails. He marched back and forth all over the acreage, chanting repeatedly differing sequences, melodies, sounds, and feelings. Our house mates were uncomfortable with this and when trying to speak with him he laughed demonically and continued to preach in his glossolalia logos like all knowing language. The strange thing, and wonderful thing, is that I could understand him. I was not myself marching around like a deranged mushroom man (woman for me), but I could feel or sense the meaning behind his inflection and strange speaking language.

In all, after the experience, he told me that he had no control over this. He said that while the trip had begun climaxing he had a vision of these shape shifting entities peering at him through large strands of glassy looking monstrous grass. The shape shifting caused a certain type of oscillation to occur, perhaps via the SCN, and he said this oscillation was interpreted audio-visually to mediate him to produce sound fragments and sequences. He said that his normal english comprehension had vanished and that he could only think and speak in glossolalia. From there, he said that he only wanted to experiment with it, hence the four to five hours duration.