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BecometheOther
#1 Posted : 11/17/2011 8:01:49 PM

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Now they are trying to censor the internet. What the fuck is wrong with our draconian government? Please do what you can to put a stop to this!

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Dear friends in the US,


Right now, Congress is debating a law that would give them the power to censor the world's Internet -- creating a blacklist that could target YouTube, WikiLeaks and even Avaaz! Now if we stand with key members of Congress, we can defeat this attempt at global Internet censorship. Click here and help build a national outcry calling for a free and open Internet:



Right now, Congress is debating a law that would give them the power to censor the world's Internet -- creating a blacklist that could target YouTube, WikiLeaks and even groups like Avaaz!

Under the new law, our government could force Internet providers to block any website on suspicion of violating copyright or trademark legislation, or even failing to sufficiently police their users' activities. And, because so much of the Internet's hosts and hardware are located here in the US, their blacklist would clamp down on the free web for all of us in America and millions across the world.

We only have days before the vote but we can help stop this -- champions in Congress want to preserve free speech and tell us that a global outcry would strengthen their hand. Let's urgently raise our voices from every corner of America and join Avaaz members across the world to build a massive call urging our decision makersto reject the bill and stop Internet censorship. Click below to sign and then forward as widely as possible -- our message will be delivered directly to key members of the US Congress ahead of the crucial vote:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet_us/?vl

For years, our government has condemned countries like China and Iran for their clampdown on Internet use. But now, the impact of these new censorship laws could be far worse -- effectively blocking sites not only in the US but also to every Internet user across the globe.

Last year, a similar Internet censorship bill was killed before reaching the Senate floor, but it's now back in a different form. Copyright laws already exist and are enforced by courts. But this new law goes much further -- granting the government and big corporations enormous powers to force service providers and search engines to block websites based just on allegations of violations -- without a trial or being found guilty of any crime!

Free speech advocates have already raised the alarm, and some key Senators are trying to gather enough support to stop this dangerous bill. We have no time to lose. Let's stand with them to ensure our lawmakers preserve the right to a free and open Internet as an essential way for people in the US and around the world to exchange ideas, share communication and work collectively to build the world we want. Sign below to stop censorship, and save the Internet as we know it:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet_us/?vl
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vibrancy3
#2 Posted : 11/17/2011 8:25:18 PM

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I presume this is similar to the ACTA campaign? i have already signed the petition Smile

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#3 Posted : 11/17/2011 8:28:30 PM
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INTERNET CENSORSHIP -- STOP SOPA / PROTECT-IP
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#4 Posted : 11/17/2011 8:31:19 PM

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#5 Posted : 11/17/2011 8:33:25 PM

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What!!they couldn't that would be messed up.
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#6 Posted : 11/17/2011 9:19:59 PM

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vibrancy3 wrote:
I presume this is similar to the ACTA campaign? i have already signed the petition Smile

Say No To ACTA!!!


This is messed up too!!! So lame when they try to regulate seeds and plants they don't own it and either do we.
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#7 Posted : 11/17/2011 9:30:24 PM

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This shit is way beyond lame, its downright criminall the way they think they can just take our freedoms away left and right, without our consent. Im saying its straight up bullshit. Were being duped. I hope the levy breaks soon cause this nonsense is just through the roof.
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#8 Posted : 11/17/2011 9:37:26 PM

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Which potential law are you referring to that attempts to further regulate seeds and plants? (Doctor Mantus)

I googled ACTA and went to the wikipedia page and it said acta deals mostly with intillectual property, and electronic privacy, I didnt see anything pertaining to plants or seeds...

Did i miss something, or were you talking about another piece of legislation?
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#9 Posted : 11/17/2011 9:40:08 PM

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Does someone want to call this Harry Reid, his parents definitely did not call him harry on accident.

Thanks for joining the campaign to save the Internet. (If you accidentally signed the petition twice, you will only be counted once.)

Now, let's double our impact by calling Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, asking him to reject the Blacklist Bill and save the Internet. Call now using the number and talking points below.

Phone numbers for Harry Reid's offices:

775-686-5750 (Reno, Nevada)
202-224-3542 (Washington DC)
Toll Free for Nevadans:
1-866-SEN-REID (736-7343)

Here are some suggestions on what to say:

* I call on your to stand for a free and open Internet and do all you can to reject both the Protect IP Act and the Stop Online Piracy Act.
* This new legislation grants excessive powers to censor the Internet. Copyright laws already exist and are enforced by courts.
* This law lets government and private business block websites merely on suspicion of violating copyright or trademark legislation by going to a Federal court judge without having a full and fair hearing.
* The new bill would put a huge burden on service providers and search engines to monitor and police their users' activities, and would severely undermine freedom of speech and innovation.
* The Internet is a crucial tool for people around the world to exchange ideas and work collectively to build the world we all want. I strongly support our government's stance against countries like China and Iran for their clampdown on Internet use. Now I urge you to show leadership and protect Internet freedom here in the US.

Remember to be polite -- we'll be far more convincing if we are reasonable and courteous. Most offices work from 9am - 5pm. If you don't get through during those hours, it probably means we're overloading their lines -- a good sign! Keep calling!
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#10 Posted : 11/17/2011 11:11:30 PM

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Sorry Harmalosa,

I kind of muscled in on your post (i have a bit of a habit of doing that which i should stop!!) just thought it is similar to what you are saying and I did want to make a talk about it, but do not like creating threads myself

I am not from the USA but do believe in free speech and sharing with others Very happy
 
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#11 Posted : 11/18/2011 6:38:22 AM

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this bill merely seeks to allow the government to hold legally accountable websites that host pirated content
it is not about censorship per say, it does not seek to block content for the message it contains, it seeks to block content based upon a pre-existing legal basis.

I am totally in favor of this type of thing and think it is silly to call this censorship, where can i sign a petition in favor of holding sites accountable for hosting pirated content? this seems like a step in the right direction

i loath censorship in and of itself and am totally opposed to it
but this is something else entirely and has no negative effect upon me whatsoever, it certainly doesn't limit my ability to enjoy the web, the nexus or to do research online.
 
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#12 Posted : 11/18/2011 5:00:27 PM
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AlbertKLloyd wrote:
this bill merely seeks to allow the government to hold legally accountable websites that host pirated content
it is not about censorship per say, it does not seek to block content for the message it contains, it seeks to block content based upon a pre-existing legal basis.

I think you might want to read a bit more into the bills (SOPA / PROTECT-IP) and this idea of โ€œwebsites dedicated to infringing activities.โ€

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&m=286680
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#13 Posted : 11/18/2011 7:13:04 PM

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No problem at all vibrancy, the topics are very similiar and all good discussion is welcomed!

Albert, think for a minute, on the surface that might be all it appears to be, but they have other motivations, the internet is a great place for free speech, and this is definetly a problem for the dominators. What to do about it then? Oh introduce some insanely overreaching legislation under the guise of piracy protection, and while your at it, make hosters of sites liable for policing their users, or be subject to fines...

Do you understand what that means Loyd? Well it would mean goodbye to places like the Nexus. Even if nexus is hosted in Europe, the UN may adopt this legislation to ya know. It would make discussion of illegal activity grounds for shutting down a site and fining people, it is a fundamental infringement on free speach, How do you not see this as a serious problem my friend? It's obviously not good for human rights or liberties come on now....
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#14 Posted : 11/18/2011 10:19:06 PM

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Harmalosa

Thank you so very much for posting this thread, done and dusted... Avaaz do some excellent work towards bringing about change.


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#15 Posted : 11/19/2011 5:11:25 AM

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Thanks for the link, i have been reading it:
http://static.arstechnica.net/2011/10/26/SOPA.pdf

There is a standard of goods and services relating to monetary values involved, I am having very hard time seeing how this would affect the Nexus whatsoever.

What section of the bill contains the part that would pose a threat to sites like this?

 
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#16 Posted : 11/22/2011 3:35:54 PM
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All it would take would be one government employee making one post with a copyrighted picture attached. Then they say the site hosts illegal content. Bam blacklist.

I for one, wouldn't put this past the DEA.
 
 
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