I recently offered some changa to my friend because he wanted to try it. He gave me a half gram of weed in return and I accepted.

I know not to sell it, but is it considered acceptable here at the Nexus to trade for DMT? Did I piss off the elves? (or will I have a bad experience if I breakthrough?) It may seem silly to wonder about it but for some reason it has been on my mind. Thanks in advance guys.

Please read the attitude page carefully, it serves as the pillar for this community



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https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=291461#post291461

It is alright to share but not hear on the nexus.

An honest trade done not for personal gain, but quite simply "people helping people--there is no apparrent moral problem there. Hopefully the substances in question are legal where you live--the law sometimes disagrees with morality and places its-elf at odds with peronal honor. SO yeah about the elves--the laws "elf" is a wierd bugger. And you maybe want to be careful and stay away from any conversational grey areas that maybe could be considered "distributing" here at this nexus.

What you describe here is not trade; your friend gave you a present just as you gave him a present. This is (morally) fine. It would be trading it you valued your dmt in weed in such way that if a friend sold you weed you'd pay him back with dmt (or vice versa).

It is the latter cases that we really do not like around here.

exactly how i felt infund

I think the way the op shared his story, it is not clear exactly how it happened, and I dont think the problem is necessarly of a moral order, but generally a problem of potential legal liability for the forum if we start discussing such things, and the OP should have, at this point, just look up the attitude page where its quite clear trading is neither something we want discussed.

In any case, if we are to talk of ethical aspect, I think it depends a lot on contextual factors:

Using psychedelic substances as currency is not that much better than selling imo. I dont mean that you can never give psychedelic substances such as DMT away and be given something by that same person, but I dont believe in establishing arbitrary values for the substances being traded and 'calculating' so that it is an equal trade, thats like using money. So let me give two charicaturized examples to illustrate the difference:

a- You meet a person who has substances you are interested in. You have DMT which this person is interested in. You both calculate the value of each (I give you x doses of this for y doses of that, because x is more expensive " ) , both substances trade hands, you both part ways.

b- You meet a person who is interested in DMT. You first make sure the person is respectful enough, you create a certain relationship with the person. You introduce the person to DMT carefully, you walk them through the preparation for their first experience, and you help them with the integration after the experience. If they 'got it', you might want to give them some more DMT, making sure they understand not to introduce people carelessly, and you do it with a good hearted intention really wishing they do it with good use. You give them as much as you feel its right to give them. Then you can explain them how to extract if they want to know, so that they become self-sufficient. Now, incidentally, the person has another substance, let's say, mushrooms. So this person gives to you, as much as they want and can, irrespective of what you gave them, simply because they know you will appreciate them and respect them too.

So I guess you see the difference. One is a cold transaction, which can be a liability to the whole community (can result in the person having an irresponsible use since they werent 'initiated' and having serious problems, and still is using DMT/substances as cold currency, using such a powerful substance as a mere tool to get you some other material you want), the other is a friendly mutual respectful sharing.

I agree with infund. What I got from the OP was that the cannabis was just a gift.

I guess what it boils down to is weather it was a gift or not the rules of the forum state not to discuss it on the Nexus as to to avoid any possible legal repercussions that may put The Traveler and the rest of the community at risk.

Law enforcement may see things differently than others.

No matter who's right it's probably just better not to talk about it here.

This thread sort of puts my mind at ease. In the past, after facilitating positive DMT experiences for my friends, they've spontaneously offered me small gifts. I always figured, well if I can give a gift, I suppose it's alright to get a gift back.

Yes it was a gift. My friend is experienced with mushrooms, had heard of DMT and said that he had always wanted to try it. I told him he could just have some (we had been talking about it for a while and I educated him on it). He then offered me a nug of some bubba kush so I accepted.

I did however put the community at risk in the perception of the thread title- upon reflection I see how stupid of me it was.

I sincerely apologize to the Nexus and to Traveler for any risk of legal repercussions I may have caused. I will read over the Attitude more carefully.

Endlessness, I really like what you said in regard to starting out beginners. But what if they are experienced friends but don't themselves extract? What if they would like to learn but don't have means to in their current living conditions?

People can wait till conditions are ripe for extracting and experiencing dmt. The I-want-it-now mentality does not resonate much with the dmt experience.

Co-extract. Make you place available for them to extract maybe.

I "trade" my DMT all the time. I let friends and family smoke it, and in return. They tell me about their experiences (if they want to that is)

I would consider that Sharing, cuz sharing is caring.

I see this as a trade. You give something and get something else for it in return. It is a trade.

I agree with all Endlessness said. Thats the way I introduce my friend to DMT exactly how he described it.

Imagine this scenarios:

a)you give your friend a changa without knowing he will be able to handle it. he smoke too much, freaks out and call ambulance who will call police. The guy will give them your name and thats it. Do you understand the risk ? You will get to jail for one irresponsible act even if done in good intention. You may lose your job and more ... you name it.


b)police will think that this site is supporting selling drugs, buying drugs, procuring drugs, prices of drugs, trading drugs and trafficking of drugs.They will take down this site and the owner will be in trouble plus all the info about us will have to be handed to the police.

I was banned for a week to talk about this not a long ago and rightly. I really think we should not talk about this here. There are so many topics we can talk about. The rule that Endlessness posted is here for a reason so lets all be responsible or go and find your self another place.

I am going to refrain from commenting on this thread, and I suggest others do the same If you get suspended you have totally brought it on yourself.

Good idea