in my experience, low doses of dmt can have a confusing effect. I would have this closed eye imagery, yet it was difficult for me to put my finger what I was seeing. It was like there was so much going on in my visual field that I could not process any of it and just ended up confused.

Wow, I totally forgot about this thread and it makes me happy to see it still going! I've enjoyed reading your last replys. Maybe it's time to give quick update.

I've smoked DMT for a couple of time now in small doses 10-25mg. 10mg would give me threshold effects, sometimes CEV..sometimes nothing...a different body feel or very pale images. I need 25mgs for open eye visuals and I have to say that especially the bodyfeeling took me by surprise. It's not the rush which makes it difficult for me, but the body high. I've also found, that it gets easier for me with higher doses because I would be so amazed by them pretty colors that I couldn't even find a single moment to fear.

Well, I have to admit that it felt a bit scary somehow, but the feeling afterwards was just great and I couldn't sleep because I was still thinking about the vivid images I had seen! Never would I have expected them to be that crystal clear.

Inspired by my lowdose DMT success, I tried Salvia again and had an experience with 2g chewed leaves which were much more difficult than DMT. It was less colorful, darker..alsmost had an evil..or at least "strange" "gothic" like vibe to it. I was mocked and punished by silly little creatures but it felt like a bad dream afterwards and I wouldn't really call it a bad trip - it was fascinating. I tend to think about it more often than about my DMT smoking.

I regret nothing. It was a good decision to smoke DMT for a small glimpse. I definatly gained more confidence. Hopefully I can try a breakthru soon. I wanted more as I tripped. I tried to go deeper and smoked like 100mg in a period of 45 minutes. But I couldn't obtain more intense effects.

I saw the pattern of the holy serpent floating upond the carpet and everything was slightly warped. My hands were glowing and the wooden panels on the ceiling too.

I don't know how close that is to a breakthru. MAybe someone can help by telling me at which point I actually stopped and how much further it's possible to go.

If you spread out your doses within the same hour the effects will not build up so much because of a quick tolerance (that also fades quickly but not within an hour). To achieve breakthrough 50-60mgs at once will do the trick.

I'm proud to say that DMT is my first psychadelic experience, nor will it be my last! I'm still astounded that I achieved such breathtaking effects from ~20mg, especially when I seem to have a natural tolerance to (mostly) all the drugs I've tried.

Bumping this thread because of recent interest.

a breakthrough for SWIM is like this..loads his pipe up(VG) with usually an unknown amount...he always eyes it..hes always felt more comfortable that way..takes either one or two big tokes..and holds them in until he counts to at least 20...what first happens around the 10-15 mark..if he gets a big enough hit..he can start to feel this flashing start to happen...its like a WAWAWAWAWAWA and it speeds up and the ringing starts...and then it reaches this place where it loses its momentum..or your breakthrough..you can usually tell by the 25 second mark whether your hit will get you all the way in..now if you take just enough..and i mean JUST enough to breakthrough...what SWIM noticed was that instead of seeing the back of your eyelids..its almost like your turn around in your head..it will pan to the left and there you will see the underworld..now if you take enough to launch you through the barrier..

well its like you are just going full steam ahead..and either pop out into a room...or you will be guided around this place...or you will be thrown around in 4d space(weird sensation) or you could become a virus that sweeps through the universe and consumes/becomes it...or you can find yourself flying above some strange planet made of gumlike people...having a big orgy...or you will feel like you are on some amusement park ride...going through a fun house..just giggling and all the jokes pouring through your mind(doesnt happen TOO often..but being able to experience it once is good enough) with elves doing cartwheels in front of you..then morphing into some other creature..and then morphing still...or you will be taken to the archive or "all that is" by this fat fellow with a small beady head..or you will pop out with memories of your life on the otherside pouring into your head..and your family greeting you in the living room..or you will get an erotic message from some octopus tentacly like woman creature..which is very enjoyable..

so what can happen on a breakthrough is virtually limitless..just try to do it with all the awareness you can muster..and PAY ATTENTION...and try to remember everything that happened upon re-entry into the Tip World(tip of the iceberg..physical reality)

best thing to do..is just load your pipe up...and make a decision to breakthrough...and then just do it...take 2-3 hits...hold the first one for 10-15 seconds..and then the next one or two for 15-20 seconds at least...or if you get a nice fat hit the first time..hold that one until you dont need to breathe anymore(this happens RIGHT before breakthrough...it feels like it does when you are swimming underwater in a dream..but you can still breathe normally)..and then exhale...

and NEVER EVER forget to SMILE...you will be so surprised how powerful smiling is when you breakthrough...SWIM has noticed that it actually multiplies the power of the take off by at least 2 fold..as soon as you smile..you can immediately feel the experience go into a higher gear...and SWIM has had his most beautiful experience while smiling...EVEN if its forced...there is just something about smiling

That was a real pleasure to read Jorkest, I appreciate it!
I also realize that I was nowhere near a breakthru. What I get is this buzzing feel spreading throughout my body..than my walls would get distorted while and everything gets kinda shaky. There would be patterns mostly on wooden surfaces only (don't ask me why) and sometimes vivid closed eye visuals, somehow holographic. I never got the ringing sound. The highest point I got was, when I felt like passing out in the next moment. I lost my motor control like after a couple of beers and became disorientated ....

But coming on a breakthru seems to be like your mind entering warp speed...never came close to encountering that.

Yeah man spot on. That the exact feelin. Like underwater in a dream.Its like an airey light freshness in your lungs. Its nice.
I always forget to smile though. Must remember to smile next time

I find the same thing man. Wood always seems to come more alive that the other stuff in the room. I dunno if its coz of the woodgrain or what. But it seems to be that way for me on most psychs. Once on acid there was some funny looking monsters looking at me through my warbroab door. Somethin bout the wood dude, somethin bout the wood

thanks, reading...

Amazing post Jorkest.