SWIM just came across the best technique ever! SWIMs sure many others have found this out before, but they'll share it with ya'll anyways.

So SWIM did this with Vovin's tech, but you can do it with any method that leaves you with a clean naphtha/organic solvent layer.

After you've de-fatted your DMT filtrate, applied a naphtha layer and done a sodium carbonate wash, you have a jar of clean-ish looking naphtha. What to do now? You could wait until it evaporates or freeze precipitate it, but SWIM will do one better!

1. Take your clean naphtha with your dissolved DMT and put it in a beaker or a small glass pyrex baking dish (the kind used for meatloaf and such) and then rubber-band a couple layers of napkins or paper towels or a hanker chief over the top.

2. Then, put this semi-breathable container in a covered place outside that is well ventilated. SWIM would go with one of those charcoal BBQ grills with the removable lids. You just need a place that will protect it from the rain and elements, but will also vent out the naphtha.

3. After your container is in a well covered, well ventilated spot OUTSIDE, just wait a couple weeks, or more.

4. As the naphtha evaporates, the concentration of DMT gets higher. But since the temperature gets higher during the daytime and lower at night, this constantly dissolves and re-crystalizes the DMT in the naphtha everyday. This will slowly, but surely build up some pretty nice and pure crystals. In a sense, it's like recrystalizing in the traditional sense, but you don't have to re-dissolve your DMT or spend more money on more solvent.

5. If the naphtha is evaporating faster than you expected, just rubber-band more layers of paper towel to the top of your container.

6. This takes time, and is probably more effective during the colder months, but SWIM can't say for sure. Doing a good job with the de-fatting will probably get you some cleaner crystals.

Let SWIM know what you think of the technique!

Great work these look beautiful

wooow beutiful. pics like that make me wish snorting and eating dmt were more effective, i just wanna have physical contact with those crystals!

Yup, I would happily smoalk any of those

spectacular
what are u doing for a defat?

dmt crystal rock candy

..wow, they look like crystals one would put on the end of a wizard's wand..! thanks

Wow I just picked the tec Im going with

SWIM did three rounds of a good solid layer of naphtha in a seperatory funnel. Nest time, SWIM'll make it four.

hmmm, can you explain this a bit more? what exactly is in the sep funnel, and at what stage?
thanks, ive never done a defat-

Awesome stuff man.
I'm going to do this with my next extraction. Its summer here atm, so the days are hellishly hot, but I'll see if it works.

Thanks a lot for taking the time and effort!

PW

How do you defat with naphtha when then alkaloid is soluble in naphtha as well?

Nice shards you got!

With pleasure! So after you've crock-potted your powder with your pH 3 acid solution (muriatic acid + distilled water) three times on the low setting (enough for a light boil) for about 1-2 hours each time, you'll be left with a LOT of pink/maroon solution.

You wanna take this solution and boil it down on the stove on low-med on a light boil. SWIM remembers that SWIM used half a kilo of powder and enough acidic solution to cover the powder with about an inch over the top. for each of the three crock pot rounds. You wanna boil this down so that it will fit in your sep. funnel with enough room for the naphtha, and eventually the basification solution.

SWIM ended up with about 1-2 gallons of acidic DMT filtrate and boiled this down to about 500-600 mL. It tooke a lil bit.

THEN, SWIM took this concentrated solution and put it in the sep funnel. SWIM poured in about maybe 200-300 mL of naphtha and swirled and bobbed and mixed it together. SWIM got that emulsion, so SWIM just sat it out for about a day each naphtha run. Then, after the emulsion subsided, SWIM released the bottom layer and just kept the filtrate in the funnel. SWIM did this about three time, but you could do it for four, just in case.

When your on your last run, empty your filtrate from the top of the sep funnel.

You may want to run this through a coffee filter if you haven't already or some cotton balls stuck in a normal funnel. You now have a fat-free filtrate that's ready to be basified with NaOH (or a NaOH solution) to a pH of 13-13.5 or so.

Ah... A very good question! By the time you perform a defat, the DMT will be in its salt form. Thus, adding naphtha will only pick up those icky oily yuckers you don't want. Shapow!

@Godisenergy - Yeah theese are surely most beautiful crystals in www!! Congratulation, I would like to go same way to get similar effect, so if You'd be so kind and answer to my litle question I would appreciate it alot .


To the point :


1 - Do u make your acid wash on the electric/gas stove or heath bath? Is that water boiling (100*C) or near-boiling?


2 - While you're reducing volume of acid solution: same question as upper


3 - When you've just made a defatting steps and ready to go basification, do you use just NaOH in grains or make a saturated NaOH solution and add it to sep.funnel with acidic solution? You know, I mean the acidic solution has pretty big volume, If I just add some grains NaOH (pre calculated according to ammounts of HCl in acidic solution) I'll avoid enlarging volume of solution... What you do at this step?


4 - Okay, lets imagine that I've just collected all naphta fractions from extractions. If I worked with approx. 500-600ml solution I would have had about 4*200ml of naphta. Next do some NaHCO3 water wash, and..? Should I slowly evaporate all this 800ml of naphta?



Sorry for my typo's mistakes etc. my english is still improving - it's not my mother-tongue. I hope you understood me .

Greetz


EDIT:

Oh I almost forgot: you wrote that dmt in natural form is a Freebase, so I have to correct it - it is a tartarate salt (DMT tartarate). Just a trifle

Ah... Thanks for correcting me! And I would be more than happy to answer your questions.

1)

You can just get a gallon of distilled water and add some pool acid (muriatic acid) to the gallon jug until about pH 3, and it's that simple.

Then, you would take a crock pot (preferably a ceramic one, like SWIM did) and place the powder inside and cover the powder in the crock pot with about an inch of acid solution over the top of the powder. I guess you could do this over the stove at a low setting. The water should be at a light boil or a simmer. This would be the low setting on most crock pots you find at the thrift store. The water itself will always remain at 100 degrees celsius no matter how much it boils, but the metal underneath the pot (if over the stove) may cause clumps, so a light bubbling boil is ideal IMO.

2)

While SWIM was reducing his acid solution with the dissolved DMT, SWIM used a stove. SWIM took two large pots and split his pink maroon acid solution among both. Then, he set the stove on at around med. SWIM found reasoned that the salt form of DMT would not break down due to high heat, and so a higher heat could be applied while saving time with the extra pot. You could totally do the whole thing (acid wash + boiling down) on a stove though. I just like to keep the temp low for the acid wash because4 the clumps are hard to scrape off.

Make sure you wear gloves when you strain out the filtrate from the MHRP mud. It'll dry out your hands slightly. Also, when draining the filtrate, SWIM found that it's easiest to take a clean old t-shirt and rubberband it over an apropriatly sized pot so that the two layers of cotton are sagging oh so slightly into the pot, so that the DMT mud doesn't overflow the sides. Then, simply pouring the MHRB/DMT/acid mud mixture directly onto the rubberbanded shirt and leaving it there for about an hour or so will drain off most of the liquid. A couple good squeezes (with your gloves on) should always be done at the end though.

Oh! and you want to check your filtrate pH as it's boiling down, because the acid will get more concentrated in the filtrate as the water evaporates. Some NaOH should be used to bring the pH back to ~3. SWIM didn't have to do this though, oddly enough...

3)

Your right. SWIM tried to do the solution of NaOH at first, but then SWIM realized that it took way too long and so he just used the crystalline NaOH to basify. Be carfeul though, because it's easy to add too much. And ALWAYS WEAR YOUR GOGGLES w/ NaOH, for those who forget. In retrospect, SWIM would have used pH papers instead of a pH meter, but only because you have to painstakingly wash and calibrate your pH meter.

4)

So if SWIY had 800 mL of naphtha, SWIM would just pour these into a deep dished pyrex baking dish. The naphtha could be split into two sepepate steep dished pyrex glass baking dishes to hasten the evaporation. So hopefully, by the time the naphtha evaporates a lot (but not all of it), crsytals should form. The paper towel or t-shirt that is rubber-banded over the pyrex dishes will allow for a slow, but steady evaporation. It helps if this is kept outside, but under something like a BBW grill with a cover or something.

SWIM don't really known EXACTLY how this technique works, but he just knows that the naphtha will get super saturated with DMT as it evaporates and the DMT should start precipitating out of solution very slowly (couple weeks) and will keep building into crsytals as the days and nights alternate from cold to colder respectively (if ts winter over there.)

Good luck and I hope this helps!

This guy deserves a raise... jus' sayin'

..i think you're totally onto it with your slow, patient evaporation, godisenergy...

thanks for the reply,,

so the naptha used for the 3-4 defats--is this washed and recycled for future extractions?

nice

I've seen purer