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mayaself
#1 Posted : 10/31/2011 4:29:22 AM

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hey D'emty'heads !! - i had posted this in the wrong area before, so here is a repost of my original first post:

ive been an avid lurker here for a number of years, and just decided to become a member and post...the following is a report from my 4th high dose session on 11/6/2008. It was extraordinarily difficult in the first 3-4 minutes, but then morphed into once of the most amazing things that has ever happened to me to this day. its actually taken a few years to totally integrate, but im feeling ready for another one soon. I kid you not...not a day or even hour goes by that i dont think of this experience.

here goes:

1) 0 - 5 sec
first large inhalation

2) 6-10 sec
second large lung filling inhalation

3) 11-15 sec
breath turned into a white crystal like staircase leading into my mouth, simultaneously visual field became a 360 circle of around 25+ large jungle like rounded tribal shield structures that had dark outlines and a black circle in the middle of each shield. i said out loud "this is familiar".

4) 16-20 sec
seemed to spin my head to the right, and an absolute silence came over everything...the visual scape was made up of bold reds and greens, with energy lines, the scape seemed to be a vast palace with shifting "skin"...remember a clown like structure embedded from the ground up in the side corridor. I had the distinct feeling that i had been here before, and in fact had/have been there/here forever, and i looked over and a pasty bald jockular clown thing sort of nodded as if to say, "here we are eternally in this space again!"….it felt like my entire life had led up to this moment, that was in fact forever...it kind of seemed like i always return to this place.......and i was forever experiencing this forever place…..i remember saying out loud that this is the future of human consciousness….Soooooo

5)20sec-2minutes
i started to think that i had been here forever, and i got nervous because i could not figure out how i got there ( nor recollection of smoking)...and now the scene had completely changed to an eternity of interlocking black symmetrical clover like "puzzle" pieces, that were all the same, and had green and red energy flowing between the pieces (slivers), but swirling colors in front of it kept folding in on me and i felt like i was continuously evaporating in a feedback loop of these patterns (white blueish patterns, and i could not figure out how i had gotten into this, and believed that i must have died somehow….possibly by taking too much of something and od'ing…but i had no idea how i had gotten there...and i kept trying to find a way out, but i was getting totally agitated and evaporated and off balance, and i felt like i needed to let my wife know that i had somehow died, but i kept trying to figure out what had happened, and things kept getting more and more chaotic in terms of the feedback motion, (the shapes stayed the same)…i kept staring at my hands saying "What happened!!??…it seemed like i was reaching a point of singularity, and i was fighting it hard...i then remember that i saw the colors shift from a more pastel, to more primary, and the shapes turned more into small perfect circles instead of the chaotic labyrinth, and i was focusing on in the center of my vision, which at that point was facing down and i was propelled through a circle directly below me.

6) 2 minutes-5minutes
Instantly, everything became real, not even in a cosmic way, like my actual real life, as real as it "usually" is, and i felt like i had quickly passed through a hospital room operating scene, like i had had a heart attack ….and then was was in my bed laying next to my wife, i could feel my consciousness go into my body and breath into it and i felt relieved that it was "over" and i was just dreaming and back home but then… it was like i had woken up and realized i was dying and had to let her know…. I had to tell her that something had happened; that infect i had died, i remember telling her it was alright, everything is fine, and things like that…i was floating above our bed.

7)i heard a voice that was different than my own, but seemed to have adopted the kind of "way" that i speak inflection, so it felt familiar, and i felt like it had been there for me in times like this before. it was kind of like "its cool....its good, its good, just relax over and over again really fast esp the "its good" part almost like an echo repeat. It felt like it was like myself, but a different version...it didn't seem like it was actually me, but more like another person that was there to look out for me...and when i looked, i saw a short old, wrinkled, triangular being that had reddish eyes and a reddish aura…a lot like a red eyed yoda without the ears with a pale pinkish aura! it told me i was an ok person, and like every time before i would be accepted as soon as i chilled out......i instinctively knew it was like my higher self that knew how to deal with this situation, and was always a part of it, but it was also an alien! It was kind of like sucking my consciousness out of the chaos, out of my head with hundreds of helping hands that may have been the hands of more "Helpers"…and then i was standing up next to this thing on my left, as it was showing be stuff on an invisible wall to my right

6-7minutes
There was also like a feeling of getting shown/figuring something out, like i had caught the gist of it (the whole spectrum of life, the secret etc), and it was like totally blowing my mind every few seconds, and i kept saying outloud "no shit!" , and "thats crazy!, and "Damn!", and "thats sick dude," and "thats intense", etc...it had this really ironic mindlblowing quality to it and i remember staring at a thin band of light which seemed to be "one" of my lives (the one im in now) and there was a whole spectrum of other colors forming a rainbow circle. The thing that was weird was i remember acknowledging that i had "chosen" that life sometime before it started!

so i was balancing in this space, getting my mind completely blown in the most AMAZING way, and my conversation was getting distant…. then through this dialog, this voice said, "do you want to keep going?" and i answered, "maybe i will, or maybe i wont.."....or maybe i will....or.... and then it was just me talking to myself…i was coming back BUT...

9) 7-10min
I felt kind of like i was performing a balancing act of free will or something, but then i got caught, and started to feel nauseous, but it was combined with this feeling that the collective consciousness of the spirit world and all the spirits were wanting to force their way thru my stomach, and they were implying "the tribal and spirit world had just about had enough of the way things have become want to/have the ability to re-organize the entire planet." I inferred that they were referring to be the entire mechanized world (East AND West). and i felt like they were sending a message, like drawing a line in the sand…the magnitude of their announcement would be as if a HUGHE tribal shield had just magically appeared in the middle of times square on new years eve….that is how REAL the event would be to everyone. I felt this was because the ancient pact between something had been broken..and it was MY responsibility to reconnect or become the bridge that would bring these two forces back into balance and restore the connection (spirit technology and scientific technology)….it became very personal but was general at the same time. I was seemingly trying not to puke and hold this energy back, when it seemed like it receeded, and i said "its not time yet"...

then i seemed to come out of all this, and as i did, i said, "Im tired, i think ill go back to sleep now" or something like that...and just like that, i felt completely normal…felt the sun shining and a light breeze... i looked over at my buddy, and he had a kind of real concern, and said ARE YOU ALRIGHT!? and i said Why?! He said i had been screaming at the top of my lungs for the first 3 minutes…asking what had happened…then he said i did something he had never seen: i got up and got into a crouching position facing backwards on the rock we were on…then he said i starting talking to something and was saying things like "no shit!" ,and "thats crazy!, and "Damn!", and "thats sick dude,"…exactly what i was saying to that being…
 

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Hyperspace Fool
#2 Posted : 10/31/2011 8:44:39 AM

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Great trip report.

I'm sure most of us here can relate. Plant your tribal shield fellow spirit warrior!

I would be careful in the future about letting random spirits use your chakras as gateways... but you have to decide how to deal with entities yourself. Some of them are so powerful that 'dealing' with them is a misnomer. Nonetheless, the most powerful ones will always respect your clear intentions and free will. The ones that don't will respect the ass whooping they will receive from the truly powerful ones should you summon them to your aid.

Anyway, be well and be welcome.

Respect.
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Tek
#3 Posted : 10/31/2011 1:14:24 PM

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mayaself wrote:

7)i heard a voice that was different than my own, but seemed to have adopted the kind of "way" that i speak inflection, so it felt familiar, and i felt like it had been there for me in times like this before. it was kind of like "its cool....its good, its good, just relax over and over again really fast esp the "its good" part almost like an echo repeat. It felt like it was like myself, but a different version...it didn't seem like it was actually me, but more like another person that was there to look out for me...and when i looked, i saw a short old, wrinkled, triangular being that had reddish eyes and a reddish aura…a lot like a red eyed yoda without the ears with a pale pinkish aura! it told me i was an ok person, and like every time before i would be accepted as soon as i chilled out......i instinctively knew it was like my higher self that knew how to deal with this situation, and was always a part of it, but it was also an alien! It was kind of like sucking my consciousness out of the chaos, out of my head with hundreds of helping hands that may have been the hands of more "Helpers"…and then i was standing up next to this thing on my left, as it was showing be stuff on an invisible wall to my right


Mayaself, thanks so much for sharing this vision. I quoted this section out and bolded pieces of it because I resonate highly with this entity you encountered. I often talk about a being that constantly meets me when I cross into hyperspace, and I call this entity Teo. Teo looks very, very similar to the being you describe, except instead of a reddish aura Teo has a bright neon green aura. He also has a triangular shaped head also, however it has no discernible features. I've often said that the ephermal substance he seems to be made out of is a lot like seeing that heat aura rise off of really hot pavement, you know that hazy heat effect? Teo looks like he's made of that stuff except brightly colored green.

Tell me, did the being you think was an aspect of your higher self seem to be speaking as if behind you? Like if you can imagine, even as your looking at this entity, that the voice seems to be entering into your conciousness as if someone were standing behind you whispering in your ear (except of course we're not using our ears!)? This is how Teo 'downloads' information to me, a lot of times it seems like even if he is in my field of vision he is actually communicating with me from behind my field of vision, which leads me to believe like you mention above that this entity I'm percieving is actually an aspect of my higher self. In fact, I've thought many times that what Teo probably is is my future self, or another life that I've lived or will live that meets me in my mind to converse with me.

Anyways excellent trip report, thanks for sharing.
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YetzirahToAhssiah
#4 Posted : 10/31/2011 3:07:45 PM
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Hyperspace Fool wrote:
I would be careful in the future about letting random spirits use your chakras as gateways... but you have to decide how to deal with entities yourself. Some of them are so powerful that 'dealing' with them is a misnomer. Nonetheless, the most powerful ones will always respect your clear intentions and free will. The ones that don't will respect the ass whooping they will receive from the truly powerful ones should you summon them to your aid.


Hyperspace Fool, could you tell me about summoning entities to my aid? Can this be done during any psychedelic experience? Is it helpful for relaxing a bad trip?

Thanks!
 
mayaself
#5 Posted : 10/31/2011 4:39:43 PM

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Thanks for the kind words! YetzirahToAhssiah - i will be careful, but these spirits/energies seemed to be the total collective spirit world forces! i mean it seemed at the time they were the spokesmen for all!

Tek- yes the wrinkly heat- like description works, although it seemed solid and had small beatty eyes that were also red. The being was at about 8-9pm on a clock from me, so yes, it was off to the side and behind, not totally behind..i could see it when i was talking to it....definately had the "higher self, future version, guide" vibe! Never got a name though Smile


 
Tek
#6 Posted : 10/31/2011 4:50:43 PM

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That's alright. After the second or so time of meeting Teo, I asked if there was something I could refer to it as since I kept referring to it as 'the green alien thing from my trips'. Teo responded by saying 'it is you humans that feel the need to label everything' and when I asked if it was alright if I referred to it as Teo it hit me back with 'I already knew you were going to want to call me that and it's just as good as any other so sure'.

This implies to me that the beings don't have names. I make it a point on every thread where I talk about this entity to start off by saying 'whom I call Teo' to make it known that this is NOT the beings name, its just a term I coined to refer to it so I have some point of reference.

Also, as a side note, when I see Teo (which isn't always, sometimes I just feel him around, usually behind me) he is typically positioned at 8 or 9 o' clock as well. I can't remember Teo having eyes that stood out, however I can tell when he's looking at me as opposed to looking away from me. Case in point, there was one journey were Teo took me out to meet four other beings that looked identical to him although they were further in the distance. Teo stood (floated is more appropriate) to my left field of vision and conversed up at these other four ABOUT me, but not to me directly. They were discussing if I was 'ready to go with them' (whatever that actually means) and Teo looked at them, then looked at me, half sighed and responded that I wasn't through playing games yet.
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mayaself
#7 Posted : 10/31/2011 7:04:17 PM

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thats pretty amazing tek...i havent done a large dose breakthru journey since that one, although I am ramping up to do one in the near future. Wonder if ill meet that entity again...the things that it was showing me were so mind blowing, mainly that earthly life was just a sliver of color (yellow) on a full spectrum color wheel which i understood to be all other life colors or "my life" colors.

i must say, after going thru the "thought i had died part" which i refer to as "evaporative death syndrome" Smile it sure was awesome to meet up with something that told me everything was cool!

it seems like even in death, there is still a part of you that contains everything that you are that survives....crazy!
 
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#8 Posted : 11/1/2011 4:17:03 PM
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^^^Interesting report

mayaself wrote:
it seems like even in death, there is still a part of you that contains everything that you are that survives....crazy!


Not sure if it's "everything" but in my own experience with other plant spirits, there was also a sence that a part of me or my consciousness survives even in death. Like there is still that "you" that carries on.
 
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#9 Posted : 11/1/2011 5:25:33 PM

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Like there is still that "you" that carries on


totally...thats what i meant exactly
 
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#10 Posted : 11/2/2011 11:32:51 AM

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YetzirahToAhssiah wrote:


Hyperspace Fool, could you tell me about summoning entities to my aid? Can this be done during any psychedelic experience? Is it helpful for relaxing a bad trip?

Thanks!


Well, basically it is pretty simple. If you have met beings in the past who showed a keen interest in you, were of a very high loving vibration, and you can remember them... then it is often possible to call them back to you.

This can take a concerted intent with sufficient willpower. It is not like summoning lower entities by force, though. (This is the classic sorcerer summoning demons motiff, and implies drawing them against their will.)

Angelic beings will come to you because they love you. This also goes for higher and future self versions of you.

It can be done any time you are clear enough to do it. As can calling upon the unitive force of life itself.

And, naturally, it will dispel a bad trip utterly.

Unfortunately, if you are having a bad trip, it is quite possible that you won't be clear enough to effectively call higher beings to your aid. Though, often the stark fear of a negative encounter can clear you up enough, the way aderneline can sober up a drunk.
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