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Izzyrizzy
#1 Posted : 10/30/2011 10:45:27 PM

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When i broke through for the first time on DMT I felt reality slipping away, and then was completely gone.

I got really paranoid and thought that my reality would never come back. Has there ever been a case where someone has broken through on DMT, and mentally never came back from the trip? Because I kinda fear that will happend to me because I think deeply about everything, and i just got scared during my break through. =[
I keep losing my phone in hyperspace X[

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#2 Posted : 10/31/2011 12:58:18 AM

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Don't worry that happens to almost everybody. At some point if you're a constant smoker. You will lose touch with this reality, but you will be returned safely at the end of your trip. Tons of people come back from these experiences and come out completely fine.
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#3 Posted : 10/31/2011 1:35:19 AM

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Izzyrizzy wrote:
I think deeply about everything

That makes you one of us! Welcome Smile
 
Global
#4 Posted : 10/31/2011 2:54:36 AM

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One of the most important lessons to learn that must be learned through direct experience in order to minimize panic reactions and negativity is that no matter how far out you go, you'll always come back. It doesn't matter how seemingly distant reality may be, in a short amount of time it will reconstruct itself without any help on your part, and whether you like it or not for that matter. It's very important to learn this lesson first hand because you can have 300 people tell you these words, and they wouldn't mean much until you experienced the truth in them. If you can really train your brain to realize this is true through repetition of experience and thought of the concept, then it should become reflexive information so that even if you're not fully at the driving wheel, your auto-suggested response should reassure you that everything will be fine and dandy in no time. Often times if you can have the where-with-all to ride out the storm, it can flower into quite the positive and comfortable resolution of the experience.
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#5 Posted : 10/31/2011 3:24:41 AM

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Very well put Global
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Izzyrizzy
#6 Posted : 10/31/2011 5:29:10 PM

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Global wrote:
One of the most important lessons to learn that must be learned through direct experience in order to minimize panic reactions and negativity is that no matter how far out you go, you'll always come back. It doesn't matter how seemingly distant reality may be, in a short amount of time it will reconstruct itself without any help on your part, and whether you like it or not for that matter. It's very important to learn this lesson first hand because you can have 300 people tell you these words, and they wouldn't mean much until you experienced the truth in them. If you can really train your brain to realize this is true through repetition of experience and thought of the concept, then it should become reflexive information so that even if you're not fully at the driving wheel, your auto-suggested response should reassure you that everything will be fine and dandy in no time. Often times if you can have the where-with-all to ride out the storm, it can flower into quite the positive and comfortable resolution of the experience.


This made me feel soooo much better! Smile
I hope to enjoy my next trip to hyperspace instead of freaking out for most of it.
Thank you very much for putting my mind at ease ^_^
I keep losing my phone in hyperspace X[

Fact: Some people like to play video games, so people like to sky dive and do crazy stuff, and some people like to enter the many different doorways of our own minds! For I am one to explore where many refuse to go!
 
Izzyrizzy
#7 Posted : 10/31/2011 5:29:53 PM

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meatsim wrote:
Izzyrizzy wrote:
I think deeply about everything

That makes you one of us! Welcome Smile


Yay! I feel accepted Razz
I keep losing my phone in hyperspace X[

Fact: Some people like to play video games, so people like to sky dive and do crazy stuff, and some people like to enter the many different doorways of our own minds! For I am one to explore where many refuse to go!
 
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#8 Posted : 10/31/2011 5:46:27 PM

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Also just keep in mind that there is almost no point in freaking out during a trip. You are already past the point of no return the second you smoke it. I hope future trips are more enjoyable for you, and I welcome you to the Nexus!
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Parshvik Chintan
#9 Posted : 10/31/2011 6:10:30 PM

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do you ever worry in your dreams that you will never return to reality?
and even if so, does it matter?
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#10 Posted : 10/31/2011 6:10:50 PM

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In addition to what others have already put down, you have to enter into the experience fully convinced that you CANNOT cease to exist. Period.

I don't think I'm alone when I state that the psychedelic experience has shown me that existence does not end with death, indeed existence seems to truly never end. With that being the case (and you have to know that this is the case, either intuitively or through multiple psychedelic sessions) no matter how horrible a trip seems to go, no matter how confusing it gets, you have to accept the madness for what it is; for what it's trying to show you. Integration comes in the days and weeks (and months and years) following the trip, don't try to make sense of it all right at first. I've found that the more confusing the journey seems after re-entry into Earth life reality, the more profound information is extracted over the long course of time.

You're mileage may vary. The hardest thing for me is getting over the pre-flight anxiety.
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Parshvik Chintan
#11 Posted : 10/31/2011 6:30:41 PM

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Tek wrote:
In addition to what others have already put down, you have to enter into the experience fully convinced that you CANNOT cease to exist. Period.

alan watts goes into this in detail, but i can't find the video in youtube history : /
basically, if there is a state of "is" as in being, then there must be a state of "is not"
and i really wish i could remember more of the details but yea..
death certainly won't be the end of your existence though our consciousness is energy, and entropy applies.
in my personal view, lack of existence was there, then a tiny flash of existence, only inside this flash is a series of implementations, i.e. time, that makes everything seem to be eternal and unending.
though this is only speculation
http://www.scienceandnonduality.com/
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Parshvik Chintan
#12 Posted : 11/4/2011 8:27:42 PM

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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
basically, if there is a state of "is" as in being, then there must be a state of "is not"

"if you are aware of a state which you call 'is', or reality, or life. this implies another state called 'isn't'..."
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#13 Posted : 11/4/2011 9:35:04 PM
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Tek wrote:

The hardest thing for me is getting over the pre-flight anxiety.


I always have to chuckle when I read something I can completely relate to. Laughing
 
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#14 Posted : 11/5/2011 12:22:20 AM
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Dr. Stalepixel sais: take lots of acid, it will help you not only "let go" of reality, but welcome its absence and eventualy you'll be telling it to close the door on its way out. when you are more comfortable with letting go of what is normal to you, dive back in with changaaaa

i have existed simply colour, words, letters, sounds, or evan abstract consepts on acid, its such a beutiful thing that you stop to care about you're ties back to earth.. kind of just want to...float.. awayyyy

(i say acid because its my thing, but i just been any longer acting trip)
 
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#15 Posted : 11/5/2011 12:32:52 AM

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Global wrote:
One of the most important lessons to learn that must be learned through direct experience in order to minimize panic reactions and negativity is that no matter how far out you go, you'll always come back. It doesn't matter how seemingly distant reality may be, in a short amount of time it will reconstruct itself without any help on your part, and whether you like it or not for that matter. It's very important to learn this lesson first hand because you can have 300 people tell you these words, and they wouldn't mean much until you experienced the truth in them. If you can really train your brain to realize this is true through repetition of experience and thought of the concept, then it should become reflexive information so that even if you're not fully at the driving wheel, your auto-suggested response should reassure you that everything will be fine and dandy in no time. Often times if you can have the where-with-all to ride out the storm, it can flower into quite the positive and comfortable resolution of the experience.



Very well put and thank you, this little segment has helped out the small uneasiness i have with spice.

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