So I was having a little changa session the other night and realized something strange.

The sound of the carrier wave is very familiar I thought.
Then it hit me (no pun intended) if you have ever been hit hard in the head or even if you clench your jaw really tightly you may know what I mean.
The carrier wave, at least for me, sounds just like the frequency caused by head trauma only it lasts a lot longer and gets much louder on spice.

Anyone notice this?
Am I just crazy? (too many non spice induced carrier waves for this guy)

Carrier wave = neuroelectric system. I have pointed out in other threads that when scientists have documented the effects of sensory deprivation, the only things reported that you can hear are the cardiovascular system and the neuroelectric system. These frequencies we emit that seem to be generated by who and what we are can be amplified by things like trauma, clenching, and DMT...

Crazy interprentation, but I guess one can describe in many ways...

Why is it crazy? It makes perfect scientific sense with the information we currently have available.

I much prefer the promising DMT carrier wave vs the more damaging concussion carrier wave.

I think this is a reasonable explanation. I wonder if this noise gets louder as we age?

There is an INCREDIBLE book called Musicophelia. It goes in depth into various phenomena like this. It's one of the best books I've ever read. It covers everything from non-musical people getting struck by lightning and becoming brilliant composers overnight, to the fact that some of us actually perceive pitch differently as we age.

I can attest that it gets louder as I age... Dont be alarmed someday if you listen to your favorite song, and it doesn't sound the same...

so essentially the neuroelectric system is what causes that high pitched sound when one is in complete silence and is this the same noise some describe as tinnitus?

It is crazy to compare head trauma sound with the carrier wave. Your interprentation is fine...

most sounds i hear during the dmt sound absolutely strange, like machines buzzing

similar to the first few seconds of the latest transformers movie or machine sounds from the latest terminator film

wonder if its the same for everybody, the sound i expierience stays the same volume all the time and lasts longer then the trip

when i hit my head it sounds way different

I spent 10 years being kicked in the head (as well as kicking other people in the head)
Not to mention sports, balls hitting my head, or skateboarding, jumping off of huge stair sets and smashing my face on the ground.

Needless to say, I hear that damn ringing loud as hell! When I smoke DMT, It's DIVE INTO THE RING

I hear mechanical/metallic sounds too, especially on mushrooms.

The carrier wave is different though its a high pitch ringing that envelops my being until I am transported somewhere...then I hear the machines and other strange things.

Its like being hit in the head and you hear the ringing then you are knocked out and somewhere else entirely.

I can't say its entirely the same sound but it is cerainly similar and its the only other carrier wave that I've experienced.

Yeah that's what it tends to do

It's incredible how it is the sound that takes you "there".

LOL! Good analogy, I concure.

Ive had way more than a ringing. I have smoked outside and heard the carrier wave as a buzzing that seemed to carry all of the information of the city arond me and things living in it as some kind of cendensed energy transmission. I am not entirely convinvced that it is not exaclty something just like that either.

Also with ayahuasca or psilocin when laying in silnet darkness it is far from a ringing sound and nothing at all like tinnitus. It is like nintendo sounds. Weird echoing beeps and other alien sounds I cant even begin to describe.

It could be neuroelectirc activity but I dont buy the tinnitus comparison. It is not like that for me...although bufotenine does gives me the exact tinnitus ring.

I think if you have tinnitus and are hearing the carrier wave buzzing vibrations and nintendo sounds than something weird is going on that if far more than tinnitus..

^ yea thats more aligned with my thoughts on it cuz to me its way more complex and variant than any tinnitus i've heard of. The part about the nintendo sounds is a great analogy! its like alien nintendo sometimes for me lol.. i know exactly what you mean

Tinnitus is just what we call our perception of the neuroelectric system in this portion of reality.

We all know that hyperpsace seemingly exists on a separate octave/spectrum of frequencies that is more than likely intertwined with this reality. It is just our perception that shifts.

This is why we see colors that don't look normal, and we hear things that aren't normally there.

^ I relate well to this. The first time I heard the sound from psilocybin I had wrote in my trip journal that it reminded me a lot of the sound dial up internet used to make, except not really sounding like that just by the way of it being an unusual series of sounds that couldn't be reproduced in nature. Nintendo sounds, like the old school beeps and boops is a pretty good description as well.

I'm beginning to think that the sounds are more of an individuals distorted perception of the neuroelectric system or something else seeing as how most everyone hears different sounds.

I have never heard nintendo like sounds but I hear alien like noises and most often there is this metallic reverberation in the background then when there is a "real" sound the reverb follows the sound.
Its like speaking into a microphone with an alienesque flanger/phaser type effect.

I have constant ringing in my ears, don't know if it is from loud music or just an awareness to the NES like House said.
But it does seem that the carrier wave is an amplification and higher tuning of the ringing.
Or maybe it is just taking the place of the normal ringing because it is more prevalent at the time?

It does seem that the frequencies have something to do with the level of consciousness/dimension in which we are capable of awareness.
Kind of like tuning your cerebral radio.

Yeah, I feel like it's tuning into another, alien dimension through the sound. Maybe there are ways to even manipulate it at will, as it's not always the same, even if it starts at somewhat loud high pitch.