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#1 Posted : 10/26/2011 8:02:53 AM

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This was written for the general public, not the experienced psychonauts(I know, I'm preaching to the choir here LOL). I wanted to share my thoughts here none the less. Sorry English is not my strongest trait.

Ive spoken to a couple people about using plant substances to assist spiritual growth. Ive gotten some negative remarks regarding it but I just wanted to share my perspective on it.


Ive heard things such as you can achieve nirvana or peace or whatever you may call it without the use of a plant or "DRUGS!".
For sure! Ive done that myself and it is amazing and I still do it! However, these plants help us to stay in the present moment in an accelerated fashion. Thats why you enjoy music/food more on marijuana for example, its because it helps you to give it almost 100% of your attention.

You aren't dwelling in the past or the future and its the "NOW" that matters the most... you start to question things... like the big picture because your mind is free and elimanates the fear of the past and the future.


But have you ever thought that these plants that grow on our planet are here for a purpose as well? If you have ever interacted with a plant spirit before, youd understand that for some of them, it is their sole purpose to heal us, please us and guide us through our life.

Why do we have so much trouble/resistance into recieving help/assistance/enlightment from the usage of these plants?

Is it simply our ego preventing us from growing?("I dont need that that will make me look weak" voice) and the social stigma attached to the usage of these plants because we are afraid of being judged by other people and weve been told its weak and a form of escape?


One of our biggest lessons in life is to learn to recieve and give and be grateful. We always have a hard time recieving help from people and plants for that matter even when its offered unconditionally.


Sure I can move from an apartment to another apartment by myself but with the help of people I can accelerate the process and enjoy their company as well.


Same with meditation, I sure can meditate for an hour and reach to that moment of pure bliss and happiness and I can also use a plant substance to reach to that point and even far beyond that in a much faster timeframe.


This is not just about marijuana... by the way, its about all entheogenic plants!


Here is an example lesson from a friend who had a moment with a strawberry spirit after ingesting it and and then under an influence of an entheogen.


" I met and communed with the spirit of strawberry and It told me about the way it attracts those to it by offering sensual pleasure, that this is how it has thrived over the years because of this gift, and encouraged me to think of offering my gifts in like."
Look at this beautiful metaphorical lesson, short and sweet and priceless!!!


Remember that abuse of any action can be detrimental to your well being. Also you must also respect these plants because if you are just using them for the hell of tripping, they will kick your butt and teach you a nice lesson!


Wake up! Plants are here to accelerate our growth people! and heal us as well!! Since our time is so limited on this precious planet, take advantage of it while it lasts. Pleased
 

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#2 Posted : 10/27/2011 3:03:49 AM

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i find it funny that many of the people who consider plants "evil" are the same people who believe their christian god made this giant rock in 7 days.

related bill hicks material is related.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baeT3g7udho
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#3 Posted : 10/27/2011 10:35:46 AM

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Good view on the matter, I view it pretty much the same way, thanks for sharing!
 
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#4 Posted : 10/27/2011 11:52:44 AM

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General public: The equation goes something like. Big Corporations ( incl. big Pharmaceuticals) control congress who in turn implement the law, laws being ultimately to protect the wealth of the few from the masses,
and to facilitate the " herding of the sheep" ( General public). Any event or substance, natural or otherwise that's provokes deep critical thinking will be maligned and eventually outlawed. The industrial-military aparatus will not tolerate freedom of spirit. That's why you will never be successful in converting the masses, it's too difficult to achieve when one is behind bars or dead.

Nice thoughts though.

Parshvik Chintan. great touch with that video, Bill Hicks was/ is hillarious and as good an advocate for our cause as one could hope for.

 
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#5 Posted : 10/27/2011 12:11:15 PM

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arcanum wrote:
General public: The equation goes something like. Big Corporations ( incl. big Pharmaceuticals) control congress who in turn implement the law, laws being ultimately to protect the wealth of the few from the masses,
and to facilitate the " herding of the sheep" ( General public). Any event or substance, natural or otherwise that's provokes deep critical thinking will be maligned and eventually outlawed. The industrial-military aparatus will not tolerate freedom of spirit. That's why you will never be successful in converting the masses, it's too difficult to achieve when one is behind bars or dead.

Parshvik Chintan. great touch with that video, Bill Hicks was/ is hillarious and as good an advocate for our cause as one could hope for.


hey man, its not like some government intelligence agency had a government project where they bought journalists "for cheaper than a good call girl", and even if they did, its not like they use fear tactics via mainstream media to create hype over some oh... idontknow..h1n1 virus? that was not actually even as deadly as the flu or common cold, but earned the pharmaceuticals millions of dollars in ignoramuses paying for vaccines for....
oh shi-
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#6 Posted : 10/27/2011 3:08:17 PM

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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
arcanum wrote:
General public: The equation goes something like. Big Corporations ( incl. big Pharmaceuticals) control congress who in turn implement the law, laws being ultimately to protect the wealth of the few from the masses,
and to facilitate the " herding of the sheep" ( General public). Any event or substance, natural or otherwise that's provokes deep critical thinking will be maligned and eventually outlawed. The industrial-military aparatus will not tolerate freedom of spirit. That's why you will never be successful in converting the masses, it's too difficult to achieve when one is behind bars or dead.

Parshvik Chintan. great touch with that video, Bill Hicks was/ is hillarious and as good an advocate for our cause as one could hope for.


hey man, its not like some government intelligence agency had a government project where they bought journalists "for cheaper than a good call girl", and even if they did, its not like they use fear tactics via mainstream media to create hype over some oh... idontknow..h1n1 virus? that was not actually even as deadly as the flu or common cold, but earned the pharmaceuticals millions of dollars in ignoramuses paying for vaccines for....
oh shi-


I'm not sure if this response was sarcastic or not, but assuming it wasn't, you don't need journalists in your pocket when your local journalist can go out and find earth shattering information that will never be aired anyway because the people who own the media companies for which the journalists work can only get away with airing so much. In other countries, the media is flat-out censored by the government. In America, it's censored by the government in a more indirect, behind-the-scenes fashion.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#7 Posted : 10/30/2011 9:48:55 PM

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Global wrote:
I'm not sure if this response was sarcastic or not, but assuming it wasn't, you don't need journalists in your pocket when your local journalist can go out and find earth shattering information that will never be aired anyway because the people who own the media companies for which the journalists work can only get away with airing so much. In other countries, the media is flat-out censored by the government. In America, it's censored by the government in a more indirect, behind-the-scenes fashion.

with censoring you can only block the flow of information.
with journalists you can manufacture new information!
but yea i linked project mockingbird (basically the inception of the indirect, behind-the-scenes fashion of media censorship)
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#8 Posted : 11/1/2011 1:06:18 AM

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I agree with your assessment, particularly "staying in the present moment".

The key, is to harness this power for everyday use; the tool is meditation.



 
 
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