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xaositect
#1 Posted : 10/22/2011 1:44:31 PM
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Hi, yesterday I experienced my first ayahuasca experience. It was all I hoped for, great closed eye visuals, contact with entitites, auditory hallucinations. I used approx. 9gr of mimosa and 4 capsules of powdered peganum. Since this is not a trip report I won't try to go into full detail of the experience. I have a few questions, I vomited after around 40 minutes when I started to go too deep I was comfortoble to go on my first journey. It was magical, breathtahking but also more dense than I could handle. Almost every source I red about ayahuasca told that puking was an essential part of the experince and my friend who is more experience with aya than I am also told me that I must puke but I should hold it in at least 45 min. My experience lasted for total of nearly 2 - 2.5 hours, approxamitaly 15-20 mins of it I was in another dimension and I could hear many entities singing to me and communicating with me which was before and during the puke. after the puke my experience continued but I was no longer in the magical realm. My question is if I manage to hold the brew in my body longer how much longer will the peak experience last at most ? and do you think is it healthy/possible to not puke the brew at all ? I filtered the brew through a t-shirt during boiling but there were still solid looking powder particles in the resulting brew and my vomit. Thank you (:
 

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#2 Posted : 10/22/2011 3:11:07 PM

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After you filter your brew after boiling it, you should put it in the fridge overnight. All of those particles should settle to the bottom at which point you should filter it one more time. You say you had 4 capsules of powdered peganum, but how many grams were in the capsules? If you didn't take enough of the rue, this could be the reason your experience lasted shorter than you liked. Not puking should make the experience last a bit longer, but you'll also probably have to contend with nausea for the duration of the experience. If you don't want to puke, that's up to you. Some nexians prefer to hold it down, while others can't wait to get it back up. Personally, I'm the latter and I usually wait around an hour after consuming the mimosa (or DMT portion) and then try to purge. Even with purging, I've had experiences last up to 8 hours, so I wouldn't blame it entirely on the purge. Your 2.5 hour trip I think might be somewhat average for ayahuasca though. Everybody's body processes it differently and there are many factors that can affect it such as digestion, metabolism, diet, etc...

If you find yourself coming down quicker than you'd like, here are some suggestions to remedy the situation. If you have more mimosa left over, you can try drinking another cup. If you no longer have MAO inhibition, you'll need to take more rue. If you have any spice or changa, you can smoke/vape some and that should launch you into the next dimension for an hour or so more, and when that's over, if you've had enough, you can merely stop, or if you've decided you can go for more, just take another rip or two and you'll be back up in the stratosphere for another hour.
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#3 Posted : 10/22/2011 3:55:32 PM
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Thank you very much for your informative reply, I kept the brew in the fridge for one night and noticed the particles but it didn't occur to me to filter again in fear of losing potency, thanks for the advice I will do as you say in my next journey and will probably increase both syriuan rue and mimosa dosage a bit (:
 
 
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