Hello everyone, this is important that I get this information out there about how I feel about a certain issue. I am posting this here on the Nexus because I think we all share a common interest. This is not a cult offering...please don't go there. I know some of you reading this know whats wrong with the world, alternatives and solutions for the way it is, and how we cant do much about it. Yes I know its the idea I am trying to portray, simple or not. You have to be ignorant if you don't believe that we are living in a society as oppressed as any one in the past. The idea that we all want and strive for a better life than we have now. Breaking down those barriers and seeking to live on this planet in harmony. This has to come to the attention of all of us here. After stumbling across The Venus Project, I realized something is trying to be done, and now something must be done. The entire world and global population must be reformed. Our social system, our structured society, and our culture is full of corruption. Power and greed comes out of this from a monetary system that drives all nations to a common interest in money and materialism, fascism, communism, you name it. Now those are just words, wipe the slate clean. We all live in different societies and cultures and government social systems. Money drives you, generally. Without it, you are struggling, laboring, working, sacrificing your time and your life in order to keep up with the demand you have in order to survive. This "game" society has created benefits only those who play, and if you don't play the game you are out of luck. Back to first premises, we need all our resources to stay intact and save our planet from toxicity, overpopulation, corruption, war, human suffering, the list goes on and on.

Why aren't we doing anything about it? Because we feel we can't make a difference, we do not matter, so we keep playing the game and hope everything is okay, and this is normal. Freedom cant exist in a world where some of us have to ask for assistance if you have no job or health insurance. It should be supplied to you. Free universities to get educated if necessary, food, clothing, housing, etc.

Won't the entire system collapse? Well, hopefully it will so we can rebuild it on a new foundation. Its obviously not working out, it was created to fail and so it has. So then you ask who will make the food, fix my car, fill my cavity, watch my kids, give me drugs, whatever it is, this has to be addressed in a new society as well. We need to research everything on what we already know and are capable of doing so work can be done as one enterprise together.

What I am implementing here is that we all need to realize that we can take action. Here's a forum we are all using to connect and network ideas and thoughts. Now I am positive that at this forum, there are a bunch of intelligent, creative, thoughtful, caring individuals who would seek to make this happen. Who would not want this new world we dream about? How do we potentially "warn" the others of what we can do and the information to do this task? So what can we do? We need the leaders of this world to intervene. To address a treaty, or create the United Nations would not do it, we would need to break down every wall, every organization, in order for new walls not to come back up, creating a higher party, a dictatorship, fascism, whatever it is. So what if someone rebels against the system? Well, there will be no system to rebel against, if money and labor is taken out of the equation, just using an example, it should eliminate the need for competition, power or greed. Now we move onto sustainable living to share all resources that are required for us to all live great healthy lives, equally.

We need to come up with ideas from all directions of what it would take to create this new world, how to influence others of what we are trying to do. Now if you agree or follow The Venus Project or not, we all must agree on the simple foundation of the idea, a better world, a better place where we are all treated the same, live by the same conditions, follow the same morals. In a world where there is no currency or materialism, or rich or poor, sheltered or homeless, healthy or unhealthy. We have all the technology, intelligence, determination and resources to do this, some more than others...which is part of the problem. I am generalizing on everything I am stating, just putting this idea out there. Can we agree to possibly create a sub forum or something to address this as a priority? I suggest the admin even deletes this thread shortly after it is created so everyone doesn't state that "sublime" started this movement and should be responsible. Maybe I am just going to be labeled a nutcase for ranting about all of this, but that's fine, if you think that, then you should become a nutcase, too. I do wish all of you consider it. Most importantly, it is all of us together, as one, to move forward together, not away from each other on the way to the top where "There is someone behind the throne greater than the King himself."

I hope none of this is interpreted incorrectly, that it should be completely unbiased and understandable as a plea to come together for this cause.



By the way Melodic Catastrophe started a thread about a new revolution where we have the same type of discussion going on. I guess I would like all of these ideas and posts to be redirected into one sub forum. I need your help - Pertaining to the Revolution

100% agreed, I am in

There's nothing here I don't agree with wholeheartedly, I haven't paid much attention to the Venus Project - I understand it's the proposal for a resource based economy but that's only as far as I know. Count me in, I'll do as much as I can to help - I want there to be a happy sustainable future for everyone, forever.

Lovely post, well articulated. I am on board

yes i think it is necessary to rebuilt all the system. And i started to believe it is possible especially after watching
movie Zeitgeist -moving forward. Money are their power. But not for long time i believe!
Count me in!

Thanks for the replies so far. This is not going to be an easy task, therefore it may paradoxically cost a lot of money to start something like this...who knows, just a proposal. I forgot to mention Zeitgeist as an example of truth that needs to get out there. We need to do something about this instead of sitting back and being the victims. Perhaps many of you already have a good life and things are going well the way they are, so you feel comfortable. I guarantee you your life would be much more fulfilled living in a future where there is no famine, suffering, war, poverty, etc. It is all false and creates a lot of human suffering. So what do we need to do? Start a petition on here to get this forum going? Or just move this to sustainable living, although that would not do it justice..

the problem with all our systems, is that they tend to be designed by people.
http://www.cracked.com/a...le-will-always-suck.html

not to say i don't agree with you, because i do.
but at the same time i only see current problems, and not really any solutions (excepting the obvious take the trillions of dollars spent on military to feed and clothe and house the poor, but a toddler can see that).
so i don't know if what we would be doing would actually be beneficial in the long run (the path to hell is paved with good intentions sort of thing)

just playing devil's advocate

I understand what you are trying to say Parshvik Chintan, this is what I am talking about though, eliminating any power in society, because this is one of the roots of the problems we experience in our everyday lives. And not having a money based system, we could clothe the poor, feed and shelter the poor, its tough in the system we have. But yet again, this is why they keep printing money to do what they want, like currency is an imaginary tool required to get everything done.

yea, i completely and whole-heartedly agree with what you said.

but at the same time people aren't likely to drop everything they know (especially in a system that feeds of the desires of the ego) unless there is a solid plan to fall back on. not that they should, but realistically, people are addicted to security; they make decisions out of fear, and they fear the unknown.

also this

Ive never heard of the venus project tho ill certainly look into it. I wholeheartedly agree that things need to be changed and that it takes people with a belief to make it happen.

Although money is possibly one of the greatest evils of the world, in the right hands it can do great good. You can the money from the world but the evil will still remain, there will still be those greedy for power and possessions and men will always try to outdo their neighbours. This is humanity unfortunately.

I have been watching the "99%" protests with equally mixed views. Our current capitalism is imperfect but that is not to say it must be eradicated. There is very little realistic alternative (as i said im as yet unfamiliar with the venus project and i may yet be persuaded otherwise) Perhaps the most sensible thing is infact a redistribution of power, from a less central position and becoming more democrasised (not sure if thats a real word but it will do) the same with money. How this can be achieved i dont know to be honest, i am admittedly one of the many sheep who will happily discuss this all night then get up tomorrow and go to work because i want more money to buy more things.

Ive just been through the basics of the venus website (perhaps i should have done that before my first post i know)
The aims i must say are laudable and it would be fantastic if it could be put into practice. However it could only work if all of humantiy were united on the idea and shared the morals and ethics of the creators. If you were to eradicate money and say to the world "all the earths resources are free" there would still be those greedy people that would take all that they possibly could. this would be in contradiction to the aims of the project. Aswell as greedy people the world is full of lazy people. If people do not have to pay for food etc, why would they go to work extracting these resources/building these fantastic cities?