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John Smith
#1 Posted : 10/16/2011 9:37:31 AM

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Greetings Nexus

I have a somewhat weird question Embarrased

I'd like to know if anyone ever tripped while dating someone, or rather starting to date, and having emotional attachments to the whole situation. Recently I've had a rather mild trip and most of the experience was heavily influenced by the whole situation. I normally "let go" by entering a meditative state and forced non-thinking to immerse myself in the ongoing experience however this time it was all about hypothetical situations / lucid day-dreams etc - very strange. Not sure how would this carry over to real-life however. One possibility I see is that it might make you fall for the other person much more than you normally would and hence create disadvantageous situation for yourself. Any thoughts on this ?
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#2 Posted : 10/16/2011 10:35:07 AM

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I have tripped with my girlfriend many many times, it is usually a lot of fun, and it's great to have some one to share the experience with. As to whether it would affect your feelings for them? Yeah, of course it will, the more time you spend with some one, and the more different sides you see of them (and you see A LOT while tribbin bawlz)the more your attachment to them may or may not grow. I don't know about disadvantageous though, our relationship has gone from strength to strength, and the ocassional trip is a very pleasurable interlude. But, YMMV Smile
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#3 Posted : 10/16/2011 11:06:30 AM

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Interesting idea. I guess you are proposing that obliterating the ego, having boundary dissolving experiences under the influence of some of these psychedelic substances would cause you to fall for someone in a reality where fantasy is so far removed, it actually became one? Yeah it makes total sense man. But at the same time it can point you in any damn direction you wanna go.
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#4 Posted : 10/16/2011 11:40:58 AM

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It sounds to me like you are just excited.

Follow your heart, and use your mind.

If you want to change your thoughts, the simplest method is to imagine you are playing music, or play songs in your head from memory.

With that said, there's still someone I haven't been able to get out of my head for ~8 years now. Every trip. I am truly just not in control over the way I feel about some things. I embrace that fully!

 
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#5 Posted : 10/16/2011 4:16:12 PM

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Just keep in mind that while you're tripping, you're bound to see your girlfriend's face as distorted in some way, keeping in mind you might not like what you see and also that it may call attention to details that really are there that you're not fond of but never noticed. There are some people that after tripping, I just can't see in the same way again.
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#6 Posted : 10/16/2011 4:36:53 PM

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Sex and relationships are a distraction from spiritual Revelation in my opinion. There is a reason why most religious sects have strong feelings about celibacy. Personally I feel there is a distinct difference in my level of motivation/focus when I'm in vs. out of a relationship. Keep that in mind. Best of luck mate.
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#7 Posted : 10/16/2011 6:28:49 PM

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It may make your friendship stronger, because now you have this shared experience that very few others will ever have. I don't think you could magically fall in love if you weren't going to already. There's also the possibility she may have a terrible trip and that could lead to it's own array of consequences.

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#8 Posted : 10/16/2011 9:33:33 PM

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Sex and relationships are a distraction from spiritual Revelation in my opinion. There is a reason why most religious sects have strong feelings about celibacy. Personally I feel there is a distinct difference in my level of motivation/focus when I'm in vs. out of a relationship. Keep that in mind. Best of luck mate.


In which way would you say your determination and focus of intent is more clear? When you are not in a relationship? I can see this because the relationship I am in takes away from what I want to be doing in my life, influences it in good or bad ways, and is bounded in a way. Now, this comes from probably the fact that most people are against drug use or really trying to have a spiritual connection in their path of life..
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#9 Posted : 10/16/2011 10:02:47 PM

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I can see this because the relationship I am in takes away from what I want to be doing in my life, influences it in good or bad ways, and is bounded in a way. Now, this comes from probably the fact that most people are against drug use or really trying to have a spiritual connection in their path of life..

most people are defiantly not all people,there's allot of people like us if you look in the right places.it does seem to get harder to find open minded people us we get older though, but maybe its just because we become a bit more closed minded ourselves...
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#10 Posted : 10/19/2011 3:03:40 AM

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Sorry guys perhaps my thread was unclear. I would never trip with someone I don't know really well.

I meant tripping by yourself in sub ego-melting doses(shrooms, aya/pharma), in a time-frame when youre starting to date someone, and assuming the other person is on your mind at least sometimes. I found that your trip just gets influenced by that whole thing so much that perhaps its better not to trip at all ? Smile Sorry weird guys weird thread.
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#11 Posted : 10/19/2011 3:37:03 AM

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fractalic wrote:
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I can see this because the relationship I am in takes away from what I want to be doing in my life, influences it in good or bad ways, and is bounded in a way. Now, this comes from probably the fact that most people are against drug use or really trying to have a spiritual connection in their path of life..

most people are defiantly not all people,there's allot of people like us if you look in the right places.it does seem to get harder to find open minded people us we get older though, but maybe its just because we become a bit more closed minded ourselves...


This is very true, During a mushroom trip i fell for someone, and she fell for me, been together over a year now. We both are i would say spiritual connected. She is over 20 years older than me, and i love her, and sometimes it feels like we were lovers in the past and our souls became separated.
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#12 Posted : 10/19/2011 8:41:15 AM
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My first, and probably most meaningful relationship developed after a moderate mushroom trip. Granted, I was 16 and a virgin, with no clue of the potential of entheogens. I had been tentatively going after this girl, in that "kind-of, maybe sorta" way, which was really just a result of my excessive shyness around female folk. At the time I took the mushrooms, I had generally given up on her as a prospect and had kind of forgotten about the whole thing. When my friend and I made the questionable decision to drive out to a secluded spot in the woods to end our trip, we put on some oasis and sat back. The whole time, I was just seeing visuals of her and feeling some kind of forlorn loss at the thought that I had blown my chances. The trip wound down, and I didn't think much more about it. A couple weeks later, she romantically asked me to a school dance, and from there on out I had what I still consider to be the best, most love filled 3 years of my life. She taught me so much, and I think that the trip I had leading up to that was an intuitive insight into how much we were meant to be together, at least at that point.

I also took strong doses of San Pedro with another girlfriend, and although we were not in such a "romantically" loving type of relationship, I cried when I saw the overwhelming look of peace come onto her face as she felt the alrightness of everything for the first time. She has struggled with self-esteem issues for her whole life, and when that cactus showed her a peace beyond all of it, we connected on a level that will never be broken. Although we aren't dating anymore, we remain connected in an inextricable way, and she is still probably my closest spiritual companion.

It seems like the entheogens allow for a glimpse of your own true feelings towards a person without the tentative ego trying to defend you. The trick is not attaching anything to the result, because who knows if that person will reciprocate? Good Luck!
 
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#13 Posted : 10/19/2011 7:08:05 PM
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Here is what happened to me.

We were both in our mid to late 20's, I was involved in the EDM club scene, and she was doing a research project on it, and we met because I had offered her a ride online.

First 2 months were pretty awesome. She was very intelligent, great sense of humor, beautiful and an amazing dancer and we could talk for hours. Obviously I was going to become really attracted to her. She however had a long distance relationship with a boyfriend of 3 years. I'm not the type to "hit on" girls, or make it known I'm interested, but apparently my feelings were pretty obvious as she eventually confronted me. She said she was pretty sure I liked her, and asked what my "intentions" were. Told her honestly that I did, that it wasn't just a physical thing (she gets hit on all the time when dancing and hates it), and that I'd be interested in pursuing something more, but wasn't going to risk the friendship over it.

I finally got access to mushrooms for the first time, and due to her extensive experience with them, I asked her to be my guide in the process. She initially refused, because she didn't believe someone could "guide/teach" someone, but she did agree to do it with me. We tripped a few times together over the next month and became closer friends, and during that time she broke up with her boyfriend. We then made plans to go back to her hometown for a week for her vacation (still just as friends). A week before we left, she met me at the club, and that night I just happened to be really drunk (very very rare for me, 6th time in my life... but was getting hazed by friends in the manner of punches/kicks to the nuts, so I stole their liqour in revenge).

Not sure what provoked it exactly, but she initiated was the first time we had any physical contact that wasn't strictly platonic. Cuddling on couches/kissing. I'm always the one driving and I drop her off at home, but since I was drunk that night she had to drive. Went back to my place and had a very nice cuddle session o_O; Very unreal to me, but I was happy.

Later that day, both perfectly sober, it got more serious. Both of us were pretty confused though, she still wasn't sure if she wanted a relationship, but we basically acted like were in one until the 5th day of our vacation where she decided to call it off.

Last day of the vacation we tripped together again, I hippie flipped, and had an amazing trip that helped me come to terms with the fact we would just be friends.

I joked with her "Despite the brevity of it, that was the most emotionally healthy and fufilling relationship I've ever had".

We don't ever talk about it anymore, except in an extremely ambigous manner on very rare occasions. Still best friends though. She has helped me immensely in finding myself so to speak.

If there is a "meaning" to everything that happens, I'd bet money on the fact that it was to get rid of all the sexual tension and allow us to be as close as we are today without any issues.
 
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#14 Posted : 10/19/2011 8:51:07 PM
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I feel the exact opposite. When I trip while there's someone on my mind I dig it. It does quite a number on my trips and I love every second of it. Does it make me like them more? Maybe. I think that would have happened if I decided to trip or not.

Romantics and tripping go hand in hand. I remember I was at a festival once and I had started to trip pretty hard on some shrooms. I was walking to the dance floor when I heard my name being called. I turned around and there was the girl I had gone to the festival to see. We picked a bench and sat for a minute, her in my lap, arms around my neck, eyes locked onto mine. Simply sublime. We then ran around and had an adventure filled night, but that is another story Very happy
 
 
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