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tigerstrike92
#1 Posted : 10/9/2011 7:43:14 PM

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Here was my dose:
4 grams of rue, ground and gel capped.
7 grams of finely cut/blended chaliponga, 2x for 30 minutes, and a last time for an hour. 1/8 tsp of citric acid was added to each boil, and reduced to about 2 shots.

Oh my wow, mind melting/blowing experience ensued.

I took the rue capsules. Then i went out and smoked some cannabis which also had some ground syrian rue mixed in with it. This made me pretty high. About 25-30 minutes after ingesting the rue, I drank the chali. Tasted absolutely horrid, I'm also pretty sure I drank quite a bit of sediment too. I was able to hold it down for about a half hour before purging. My first thought was, "great, I purged to early". But I was then assured by the chaliponga that this was indeed not the case.

THE TRIP
After drinking the chali, I immediately began feeling the effects of the MAOI. Tracers were evident from everything I looked at, and I also started to feel really heavy. The purge hit me like a wall, tasted just as bad coming up as it did going down. However, it had some characteristics of "rainbow" puke. So i laid down, and it freaking hit me. My vision began to pulsate, and I was being ripped from reality. I would yell out as loud as I could, because I was falling through dimensions with such speed and velocity, I felt that if i did not yell and contract my muscles, my entire being would be ripped apart into individual molecules. I looked at my sitter, and went to "pound it" but ended up holding his fist. Our hands then merged, and conjoined the both of us, shooting out ecstatic light from where our hands used to be. His body appeared to be made from tangled and wound electrical cords that pulsated with electricity. I was finally released from his grasp. My dog had gotten up on the couch with me, and i felt at one with him. As he layed at the end of the couch curled up, he could tell i needed comforting, for I was in a strange and bizzare world. I positioned myself so i could lay on my furry friend and pet him, when another furry friend (a relatives dog who i babysit all the time) came and layed on me too. It was very comforting, and i felt surrounded by a sea of warmth that was just radiating from my two of my best friends in the world, who knew I needed their help at that exact time. Eventually, when i was feeling a little bit more comfortable with this pulsating alien world i was navigating through, my dogs left me. When they did, their bodies stretched and contorted in ways that made them seem snake-like. As their fur slipped through my fingers, i felt it as liquid. When i sat up, i was in liquid, but not wet. I was surrounded by a cosmic fluid that was very thick, yet completely dry. I went to take a drink of water, and the water tasted like mucous. So i spat it back into the cup and tried again. Still tasted like mucous, I thought for a moment I was trying to drink my own vomit. (I was relieved to find out that it was indeed water, when the i returned to the earth) After a while, I then had to endure the purge from below, and spent a good amount of time on the toilet. I felt a lot better afterwords, my stomach thanked me for it. There was no concept of time, but at one point my mind was racing very fast, and I was watching the past 6 weeks of my life in review. Everything was put into question. I was asking questions aloud, such as "What is life?" "What are these drugs?" "Am i really a part of this psychedelic underground culture?" "What have I done to myself?" "What would my mom think of this" "Why does anything exist" "What is conciousness" Of course, I never found any answers, but I don't want to either. These esoteric questions will bury you alive if you let them.

Needless to say, chaliponga blew my mind apart, down to the atom, but with the help of my furry friends, I was able to safely navigate through the cosmic fluid, and once again return to this earth.

I have a slight headache this morning, but i think that is due to all the yelling, and the dehydration.

The best thing I took away from that, was take nothing for granted. All living things are intertwined, and every action you make will effect the actions of anyone you have ever or will ever know, including plants and animals. So love, and be thankful for this beautiful world we have been given.
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#2 Posted : 10/9/2011 10:56:43 PM

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Wow, that is an amazing report, my jaw was dropped about 1/3 through.. I've never had visuals so strong, only on a pharmahuasca trip did the world ever warp into another reality (smoke DMT and salvia have but not for hours) but OEVs for me are always patterns so it is amazing to me to hear about the visual aspect of your trip.

I've been putting off both smoking DMT and anything psychedlic at any serious dose for a while but I'm sure that an experience like that could shock my system out of the rut I am in... maybe.

Anyway, entertaining read!
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tigerstrike92
#3 Posted : 10/10/2011 2:32:19 AM

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It was very intense. Just straight "tripping harrrrdddShocked " Probably the strangest part was trying to drink the water. In a way it almost felt like i was trying to drink a whole universe, and it tasted so very weird that I kept spitting it back out. Strange indeed.
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#4 Posted : 10/13/2011 3:43:38 AM

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that sounds like a great trip! I enjoyed reading your report and am now interested in experimenting with chaliponga myself Smile
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tigerstrike92
#5 Posted : 10/13/2011 4:10:13 AM

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Zombie, you should definitely go for it!

But be aware, chaliponga is a very STRANGE animal, and as dosage goes up, things only get more bizarre. I would not go any higher than 5 grams for you first dose.

Let us know how it goes and GOOD LUCK! Very happy
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#6 Posted : 10/13/2011 4:51:12 AM

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thank you for sharing your absolutely insane ride!! that is one heck of a report
<3 dogs <3 i'm glad you made it back safely despite the initial roughness, and enjoyed your tripVery happy
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#7 Posted : 10/13/2011 7:29:44 PM

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tigerstrike92, I'm interested how was the taste of the citric brew ? Can you compare it too an acetic one ? And thanks for sharing. Some parts are indeed, mindblowing.
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z0mbie
#8 Posted : 10/13/2011 7:58:46 PM

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Do you use the leaves of the plant for this process? I am looking into ordering the materials now. Tigerstrike, I was wondering if you have a preferred supplier of the plant material too?
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#9 Posted : 10/13/2011 8:10:39 PM

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On one occasion i drank 10 grams chali and 4 grams of rue, and it was one of my most profound experiences ever, in which i had my first contact with a spirit or entity. It was a very amazing journey.

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tigerstrike92
#10 Posted : 10/14/2011 12:15:20 AM

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Shaolin - Terrible. That why I reduced it down to a shot. But i must say, it was definitely not the WORST thing I have ever tasted. It wasn't as bad as some kratom tea that I made once using half water half lemon juice *shivers*. I also tried making a cannabis tea once using milk and butter. That too, was worse than the chali. I haven not yet added acetic acid to any of my brews, but based on the smell of vinegar, I think it would taste worse.... IMO.

zOmbie - Yep! I took 7 grams of chaliponga (a.k.a. chagropanga) leaves and cut them into small pieces using scissors, then I took those small pieces and ground them with a coffee grinder. I put the resulting bits into the brew. I'll PM you about the supplier.

Harmalosa - I can only imagine what that was like. I might step up the dosage in the future, but I want to work with some other admixtures or true ayahuasca before I go back to Chali-land.

P.S. I should add that no dietary changes were made before or after the experience whatsoever, which may have been the cause of such heavy purging.
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