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#1 Posted : 12/12/2008 6:40:18 AM

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or any other worth while maois?
 

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#2 Posted : 12/12/2008 7:15:12 AM

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SWIM recently has done studies with Anticholinergic, powerful MAOI of it's own right. Unknown to give the reversibility that Harmalines give problematically.

most commonly from Datura species


Caapi, Rue, Tobacco & the Passion flower most noted to contain harmines
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#3 Posted : 12/12/2008 9:14:16 AM

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T. cocoa (chocolate)

St. John's wort

Passiflora

Our favorite THH vendor "sometimes uses special strain of syrian rue"

Theres many more...


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#4 Posted : 12/12/2008 4:06:19 PM

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worth while, really? how many man hours do you think it would take to get enough maoi from any of those plants...
i wasnt aware rue had much thh in it. would love to hear the many more. actually thats what i was hoping for.
 
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'Coatl wrote:
T. cocoa (chocolate)




?
 
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Agree with 'Coatl.

Cocoa has proven antidepressant activity that is attributed to MAOI containing substances. I have no idea how much cocoa one would have to ingest to get sufficient MAO inhibition effects, especially when it for instance wants to feel effects from orally administered dmt.

St. John's Wort also has MAOIs, it is even prescribed from herbalists as a treatment for mild depression. It is the herb of choice for some depressive people and a few swear by it.

As to the nature of the substances responsible for the MAOI activity I do not really know much. To the best of my knowledge however they do not contain the famous from aya brews beta-carbolines. Passiflora on the other hand does, (i.e. it has harmine and harmaline) but in low amounts.

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Yes Theobroma cocoa.

http://www.shaman-austra...832&st=0&start=0

http://www.shaman-austra...178&st=0&start=0

http://www.shaman-austra...cs&highlite=%2Bcocoa
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#8 Posted : 12/12/2008 6:20:44 PM

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What's the MAOI in cocoa? Can anyone give a web reference? Is it the theobromine?
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if theobromine is the culprit..perhaps we have a stronger maoi on our hands
it's a sound
 
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I knew it had anandamide, but was unaware of the MAO-B phenylethylamine; deprenyl maybe? Found in the notorious 2C-B.

http://www.cacaoweb.net/nutrition.html
http://www.chelationther...e.com/articles/p237p.htm

That would most likely help your glaucoma as well. Cannabinoids Smile

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worth while, really? how many man hours do you think it would take to get enough MAOI from any of those plants...
i wasnt aware rue had much thh in it. would love to hear the many more. actually thats what i was hoping for.

extraction using HCl and water. Takes about a full day to compress.
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#11 Posted : 12/12/2008 10:08:00 PM

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coz42 wrote:
deprenyl maybe? Found in the notorious 2C-B.


I'm confused. 2C-B contains 2C-B... it's a pure compound. Deprenyl is a completely different compound.
 
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Entropymancer wrote:
I'm confused. 2C-B contains 2C-B... it's a pure compound. Deprenyl is a completely different compound.

Pure compound oh yes. Phenylethylamine, 2C-B pops to mind.

Deprenyl is found in that family, and is not sure but understands that beta inhibitors being irreversible cannot metabolize tryptamines. Maybe a larger dose could inhibit its alpha?
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