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#1 Posted : 10/1/2011 12:41:04 AM

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Then why doesn't it precipitate out of a basic solution? Or does it? I just haven't seen it do so.
 

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#2 Posted : 10/1/2011 12:49:18 AM

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slewb wrote:
Then why doesn't it precipitate out of a basic solution? Or does it? I just haven't seen it do so.

It does.

1. Take some DMT and dissolve it in a small amount of vinegar.
2. Dilute the solution to get a reasonable volume.
3. Add NaOH solution, and watch the precipitate form!


(DMT doesn’t precipitate out of MHRB solution because of other substances in the bark.)
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#3 Posted : 10/1/2011 12:53:03 AM

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DMT doesn’t precipitate out of MHRB solution because of other substances in the bark

hm. that's what I want it to do. How does that work? Do the other substances cause the dmt to be more soluble in water or do they change the water so that the DMT is soluble in it?
 
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#4 Posted : 10/1/2011 1:00:32 AM

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slewb wrote:
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DMT doesn’t precipitate out of MHRB solution because of other substances in the bark

hm. that's what I want it to do. How does that work? Do the other substances cause the dmt to be more soluble in water or do they change the water so that the DMT is soluble in it?

buoyancy is one reason dmt does not precipitate out. humans are also insoluble in water (acidic, basic, doesn't matter) and it's a pain to precipitate them.

There is also a speculation that molecules in the composition of the basic MHRB solution provide "hiding places" for dmt hence it feels happy not precipitating.




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#5 Posted : 10/1/2011 1:26:32 AM

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Infundibulum wrote:
buoyancy is one reason dmt does not precipitate out. humans are also insoluble in water (acidic, basic, doesn't matter) and it's a pain to precipitate them.

Humans don’t precipitate out of water, but they’re easily filtered.

(And if you have a strong enough acidic or basic solution, they are quite soluble. Shocked )
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#6 Posted : 10/1/2011 1:42:59 AM

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gibran2 wrote:
Infundibulum wrote:
buoyancy is one reason dmt does not precipitate out. humans are also insoluble in water (acidic, basic, doesn't matter) and it's a pain to precipitate them.

Humans don’t precipitate out of water, but they’re easily filtered.

(And if you have a strong enough acidic or basic solution, they are quite soluble. Shocked )

Now you reminded me about this case of the mexican who was disposing bodies by dipping them in a tank of ulta-strong lye where they were reduced to a thin film of transparent pink gel in a matter of days!

But yes, I stand corrected, humans can dissolve in acids/base!

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