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#1 Posted : 9/26/2011 9:33:03 AM

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This should really go in the "movie bin" but as a new member I would like to share here!

I would like to recommend Gaspar Noe's film "Enter the Void."

It centers around a characters moments after death, with themes related to the Tibetan Book of the Dead, and explicit DMT use. The camera angle is like an old first-person shooter.

Overall, it is a really heavy movie. Hardly a light watch and rather depressing. Still an amazing film and a great piece of art.

Opening Credits alone are really interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/w...oP8E&feature=related

There is a DMT experience in the film and I am curious how this compares to others experiences:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mb3mssgPhw

Has this been discussed elsewhere on the forum?
 

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#2 Posted : 9/26/2011 10:45:04 AM

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I can relate to it, but my visions are usually much faster moving, more intricate, and just a leeeeetle bit weirder than that. I don't think he broke through either, maybe his smoalking technique could use some work Laughing Also, who the hell has their phone on during a journey?!
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#3 Posted : 9/26/2011 12:50:15 PM

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Great movie it has been discuss already, i am sure you can find it.

try looking into the Tibetan book of the death, find the movie great watch.
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#4 Posted : 9/26/2011 1:30:10 PM

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It was definitely an interesting movie, however, I didn't really enjoy it at all.
It was slow paced and for the most part boring as all hell.
I'm very much interested in the themes the movie explored, on their own they are fascinating, the movie was, a waste of time.
In my books.
 
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#5 Posted : 9/26/2011 1:46:21 PM

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^ noted good point there i enjoyed it but to many sex scenes, but that's Japanese director for ya. loved the visuals
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#6 Posted : 9/26/2011 3:03:04 PM

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The lack of linear time in the movie was at first interesting but became frustrating. The whole movie was quite intense. As he lit up the DMT pipe I remember my hands sweating profoundly more profusely than when I or anyone else lights up. Did anyone else notice he took like a million hits too?
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#7 Posted : 9/26/2011 3:12:52 PM

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^ noted good point there i enjoyed it but to many sex scenes, but that's Japanese director for ya. loved the visuals



He is an Argentinian and (I believe) based in France. Wink

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#8 Posted : 9/27/2011 12:07:51 AM

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Global wrote:
The lack of linear time in the movie was at first interesting but became frustrating. The whole movie was quite intense. As he lit up the DMT pipe I remember my hands sweating profoundly more profusely than when I or anyone else lights up. Did anyone else notice he took like a million hits too?

That's the first thing I thought. It looked like he was smoking an actual bowl of nothing but DMT as well O_o.
 
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#9 Posted : 9/27/2011 12:23:54 AM

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Noé's films have a morbid over emphasis with sex and violence, just plain "shock flicks" with an arty twist. Also with todays computer graphics he could have done a better job on the DMT trip scene. A real breakthrough with entities and other world existances, drug dens and bordellos would be the last place I'd expect to be hanging around if my spirit were set free of the body. Thumbs down rating ! The Ayahuasca scene in Blueberry seemned a better interpretation of the molecules effect, though a bit somber. Nice clip on "You Tube" with Orbitals "Belfast" playing.
 
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#10 Posted : 9/27/2011 2:03:27 AM

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I actaully tried to watch enter the void and had to just turn it off 3/4 of the way though. I did not like it and found it boring. To each they're own though.
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#11 Posted : 9/27/2011 4:38:40 AM

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I thought the movie was cool but became a bit tedious after the first two hours
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#12 Posted : 9/27/2011 7:07:16 AM

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fractal enchantment wrote:
I actaully tried to watch enter the void and had to just turn it off 3/4 of the way though. I did not like it and found it boring. To each they're own though.



I was definitely hoping it was gonna end much earlier than it did, but it just kept going on and on, and I kept thinking, "well I got this far, and I'm probably never gonna watch this ever again so I might as well finish it to see how it ends"
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#13 Posted : 9/27/2011 4:12:05 PM

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Haha yeah, this flick. I dug it, got what he was doing in the most of it. That shot where the camera goes into the open flames on the range I was just thinking "oh man don't stick your eye on the stove, I know its pretty man but don't... oh there, my eye is on the stove, permanently blind." I gotta agree with the folks that say it's a bit longish and really kinda boring, but the content and intent are considerably more worthwhile than the last Michael Bay flick that ran that long and was considerably more boring for lack of, well, anything a good film might have.
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#14 Posted : 9/28/2011 12:08:48 PM

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Sounds like it is definitely not new news amongst the nexus crew.

I found it not enjoyable to watch for the most part, and rather depressing. Had me in consternation for the next few days.

However, made an impression. I suppose that is what art should do.

The hovering camera angle and examination of the mind after death (and the world after death) is really fascinating. I just wish it didn't have to be dark. There were (almost) no likable characters in the movie (outside of the fella that gave him a copy of the Book of the Dead).

What would the movie be like if it chose to focus on something, anything happy? What if a well loved person passed? What if a person full of love passed? What would happen if we moved into joy and reviewed our moments of joy with others?

That was not the movie that Noe was making. And would there be either the sadness of Noe or the joy I'd hope for, we can only speculate. But specifically referring to the film premise and the unique camera angle, what if things were lighter? Would be an interesting take on things.
 
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fractal enchantment wrote:
I actaully tried to watch enter the void and had to just turn it off 3/4 of the way though. I did not like it and found it boring. To each they're own though.


I was the same.

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#16 Posted : 9/28/2011 10:32:18 PM

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i could not really watch the whole movie , what i remember is ........

the guy did not weigh his doseage , also letting the mobile be on while tripping , also how was he able to talk on the phone coherently ,

, also the visuals were crap compared to the real thing

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#17 Posted : 9/29/2011 3:27:37 AM

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I loved that movie,
I watched it in two sittings, I think that made it a lot more enjoyable than what going through the whole thing at once would have been.

And I don't see why people are complaining about the visuals, it would be impossible to get the real thing
 
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#18 Posted : 10/4/2011 12:06:52 AM

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I enjoyed Enter the Void. There are decisions Noé made I disagree with, but EoV is a bold movie that plays by its own rules, and explores places that deserve to be shown. Of course, if you expect a movie to succesfully capture the sheer, unique subjective experience of a trip -specially if you have been there- you are likely to be disappointed. But cinema is limited to image, sound and implicitly time, and those are only a part of it. In that sense, the use of blackouts can make some people impatient, since the temporal distortion within a trip cannot be evoked in linear screen time. At least not without cheating and seasoning the popcorn.

In any case, EoV will make the audience make questions, and that is always welcome. And the depiction of the subjective, in the current state of the art, is as good as it gets - or almost. I did enjoy Noé's film, and I defend it.
 
 
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