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#1 Posted : 9/24/2011 2:40:52 AM

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If there is another thread written to encapsulate the Dimensions, their construct and relevance, i couldnt find it, so may i start one here?

I believe that knowing as much about the levels as possible in the 3rd, will allow greater control and understanding/acceptance.

Can anyone honestly recognise which dimension is what?

Do you experience access to moving levels as needed by...ahhhh...as required?

Can you move around freely and think with precision when you are operating at certain levels?

Are you restricted?....or do you have ACCESS ALL AREAS?

Please add to the list, or answer as you will.

Thankyou.
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#2 Posted : 9/24/2011 2:56:51 AM

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I am not too sure how to articulate any way I have of knowing what dimension I may or may not be in, though I'm never really sure.
From what I am told, the shamans who guide you through an ayahuasca experience are very well versed in characteristics of each dimension, and will be able to tell you which dimension you were in given your description.
 
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#3 Posted : 9/24/2011 3:24:11 PM

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The whole dimension aspect to the experience is perhaps one of the most intriguing and beloved to me. People usually start by instantly talking about the fourth and higher dimensions, but I'm gonna take a second to step back and go the other way first.

There was one day where my GVG had an abnormally large amount of DMT condensate in the U-neck. I decided that instead of cleaning it out, I would just try to super-heat the vaporizer to vape it all. Having known that it would be difficult to do, I had the idea (which I later found out wasn't original of course) to remove the top piece of the GVG with the ceramic filter and carefully lower the torch from above. The GVG instantly and effortlessly plumed with thick white vapor that cleared with extreme ease and no harshness at all. As I held my hit in, I began looking around my bedroom with my eyes open, only to discover that I had lost 100% depth perception. I was seeing the external world in complete 2D. Everything was completely flat, even and equal in relation to me. I decided I would try to take another hit, being the first one was so easy to take, and I was looking to push my limits to see how far I could get. The only problem is that when you're vision is in 2D, it can be remarkably hard to place the flame over the GVG. It was pretty much the only time where I felt it physically difficult to take another hit when I wanted to, though I eventually did manage.

As I was holding in my second hit, I was looking at my wall, and I noticed there was a spot that wasn't flat. Not only wasn't it flat, but it looked like I was seeing deep through my wall into another dimension through which 4D machinery was floating out. This was the first time I saw 4D objects with my eyes open (before only with eyes closed), though I can now see such phenomena with ease which makes me believe that it was thanks to this experience that I sort of unlocked that feature of the experience. I could go on with how that experience bizarrely proceeded, but I'll save that for elsewhere because it doesn't really pertain to dimensions.

Here's something that I ended up realizing about the 2D experience in retrospect. I was seeing in 2D but because I had the natural where-with-all to know that I really exist in 3 dimension, I was thus able to move in 3D, though my eyes wouldn't show me that. Point being that just because our nervous systems only allow us to normally see in 3 dimensions, doesn't mean that we're not constantly moving about in the upper dimensions (mostly unknowingly).

So I know when I'm experiencing the second and third dimensions. From there anything else is really sort of a guess, and I'll most often just chalk it up to the fourth or play it safe and describe it as "extra-dimensional, "inter-dimensional" or "multi-dimensional". Why those extra dimensions come into play in the DMT experience, I don't know, other than to say that I'm more likely to get it, the more efficiently I vaporize the DMT. I can rarely move about freely, though to be honest I don't really ever try much.

There was one time where I had a lesson by some entities where they demonstrated the mechanics of their inter-dimensional antics. They started off with the most basic example, making sure I could clearly see every detail that was going on, and a little "behind-the-scenes" view of things. They play off this sort of foreground/background technique. This is different than how we would think of foreground/background in a painting. In this scenario, the background is a "hidden background", that is to say when you're having your DMT experience, it is an area that you aren't supposed to see. Hyperspace material easily slides back and forth into this hidden dimension which gives the illusion of basic uni-dimensional movement. For example, imagine a hand moving from left to right in hyperspace. It all appears to take place on one plane, but in reality, the left part of it is slipping into the background as unseen matter slips into the right part of the foreground. This concept can then be (complexly) expanded into inter-dimensional movement. The same concept is at play with what we perceive as multi-dimensional objects/entities, except now we have a foreground and a real background in addition to the hidden background. Anyone who has ever seen layers slide through each other may have an idea as to what I'm talking about. I understand that the experience is different for everyone, so please understand this was how it was presented to me. Sometimes a "hiccup" in the experience can sort of derail it, allowing you to see some behind-the-scenes dimensions, though it can effectively ruin the experience to some extent.
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#4 Posted : 9/24/2011 4:09:44 PM

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I have to agree with global I love the first levels when
Things begin to distort ,move and morph . That's the sign that I m on
The right track and things are only gonna get better.

I can remain clear and sharp these days when fully emersed in
The information stream . It always feels to me that if we knew what we
Were doing travelling to different dimensions and actual worlds
Could be possible utilizing the data stream flowing through everything .
The dmt brings this ever present information flow to our
Awareness in an immediate way .

I believe seeing dmt as the connection to this larger reality
May simplify things. It's like a vast and beautiful ocean of consciousness.
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
Arthur C. Clarke


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#5 Posted : 9/25/2011 3:43:23 AM

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Cool postage!! Thanks !!

I think im going to focus on asking for reference points...maybe a defined illuminated sign...(You are now in the 6th dimension....please enjoy your stay) Smile

 
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#6 Posted : 9/25/2011 3:53:55 AM

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Im totally disengaged now and operating in a different format, only expressing interest in the attitudes and mediation that is tangible to my experience and role...the irrelevance of worldfucking roleplayers ridiculousness in their attempts to harness and contort the paradigm excites me, and i now no longer have any opinion or expectation....personally, i understand, yet have no objectivity...knowing and respect of certain elements has steeled me beyond fear and expectation....in short...FUCK EM!
(This is in reference to certain elements i have encountered in a certain level...this level seems like the construct of building life here, a program space that operates as the earth "factory"...when im in this level, i operate beyond peripheral vision, and have full lifelike access and abilities, albeit in a super powerful ungoverned form...what is fantastic about it to me is with the eradication of ego/greed,comes a skill base and ability to do things beyond my wildest understandings, and seems like it is totally why im designed.)

This is the level i seek to understand, as this is where i believe i work, the wanting to experience and know unlimitness...well, thats kinda irrelevant, not that i dont want to go further, ill go as far as i can possibly go 101%!...It just feels like the understanding of going further is mute, as i have so much to do in this level...i HUNGER for it...im salivating now thinking about it,im there now, i can see it as well as whats in front of me now...

WHERE IS IT?WHAT IS IT?....i need to know in this dimension to understand more about how to control this construct as i am asked to.
 
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#7 Posted : 9/25/2011 10:34:57 PM
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Yeah the 2d, or Cartoon vision can become sometimes very intense. And sometimes things get so deep even with your open eyes, that your very room seems endlessly alien, like the whole normal existence has been terminatedShocked Laughing .
I guess I could call it 4th or even 5th dimensionLaughing
 
 
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