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Has anyone heard of this? I just got a few emails with links to stories over the past day or two. http://www.thenewamerica...cleansing-black-genocideQuote:NATO and U.S.-backed rebel forces in Libya are reportedly engaging in systematic attacks against the black population in what some analysts have called war crimes and even genocide, sparking condemnation worldwide from human-rights groups and officials.
Reports and photographic evidence indicate that numerous atrocities including mass executions have taken place even in recent weeks. Many black victims were found with their hands bound behind their backs and bullets through their skulls.
Horrific internment camps, systematic rape, torture, lynching, and looting of businesses owned by blacks have all been reported as well. And countless sub-Saharan Africans have been forced to flee their homes in Libya to avoid the same fate.
The al-Qaeda-linked rebels’ campaign of racist terror began shortly after the Benghazi uprising in February. More than a few videos surfaced on the internet in the early months of the conflict showing brutal lynchings and beheadings while Western-backed rebels cheered.
But as insurgent forces solidify their grip over most of Libya, the race-based persecution is quickly intensifying. Entire cities and towns formerly occupied by blacks have been ethnically cleansed and destroyed.
"The Brigade for Purging Slaves, black Skin" — apparently a rebel slogan — was found months ago scrawled all along the road to Tawergha. And today, the coastal city of about 10,000 mostly black residents has essentially been wiped off the map.
Rebel forces rounded up remaining inhabitants and reportedly took them to camps, although reporters searching for the former residents have not been able to locate them. Homes, businesses, and schools were then looted before being burned to the ground.
Finally, graffiti reading "slaves," "negroes," and "abeed" — a derogatory term for blacks — was painted all over the ruins by NATO’s revolutionaries. The former city is now a "closed military area," according to rebels guarding a checkpoint interviewed by the McClatchy news service.
“Tawarga no longer exists,” a rebel commander told the Wall Street Journal. Another rebel fighter boasted more recently: "We are setting it on fire to prevent anyone from living here again.”
The anti-black brutality could also be found in the capital, Tripoli, according to a correspondent for the Sydney Morning Herald and others. Earlier this month Ruth Pollard described a prison where she found, among other horrors, jail cells packed with more than 25 prisoners.
In another cell: two black men in desperate need of medical care. One of them, a 28-year-old Nigerian, was doused with gasoline and set ablaze in a racially motivated attack. He had been in the rebel-run prison — burnt skin peeling off his face — for nine days without so much as a visit from a doctor. And there was a hospital just a few hundred yards away.
“Anyone with dark skin — regardless of their loyalties — can find themselves a target,” the Herald reported. Countless analysts have reached the same conclusion.
Late last month, the U.K. Independent reported that a makeshift hospital had become a ghastly crime scene. Dozens of men, almost all of them black, were murdered and left to rot — some of them still hooked up to medical equipment.
“The killings were pitiless,” the paper noted. “Many of [the victims] had their hands tied behind their back, either with plastic handcuffs or ropes. One had a scarf stuffed into his mouth.”
Much of the black population in Libya today is native, coming from the Southern regions of the Arab-dominated nation — and some of them did indeed fight as soldiers in Gaddafi’s military. Other dark-skinned people in Libya are simply migrant workers trying to earn a living. But they have all become targets.
At least part of the violent campaign launched against them has been attributed to early reports that Gaddafi was using sub-Saharan mercenaries to suppress the Western-backed insurrection. International human-rights investigators in Libya later reported that the allegations were completely false. But the narrative had already taken on a life of its own after being widely disseminated in the press.
“In February, there was this rumor about Gadhafi using black people as mercenaries — that’s wrong,” Amnesty International’s Nicolas Beger told the Associated Press. “But the [National Transitional Council] has not done a lot to curb that rumor and now there is a lot of retaliation against sub-Saharan Africans. Whether they were or they weren’t involved with the Gadhafi forces, they are at real risk of being taken from their work or their homes or the street to be tortured or killed.”
In a report released this week, Amnesty International said the Gaddafi regime had perpetrated widespread abuses. But rebel forces associated with the National Transitional Council (NTC) "have also committed human rights abuses, in some cases amounting to war crimes,” it noted. The new regime has promised to investigate.
Other organizations and observers have also called for an end to the lawlessness — and particularly the targeting of blacks. “It’s a dangerous time to be dark-skinned in Tripoli,” noted Sarah Leah Whitson, the Middle East and North Africa director for Human Rights Watch. “The NTC should stop arresting African migrants and black Libyans unless it has concrete evidence of criminal activity. It should also take immediate steps to protect them from violence and abuse.”
As The New American reported last month, evidence of widespread war crimes committed by the rebels and their NATO partners continues to mount. Everything from bombing women and children to destroying essential civilian infrastructure has been well documented. But the attacks on blacks have been particularly vicious.
Repercussions over what observers have labeled ethnic cleansing are being felt all over Africa and beyond. Chairman Jean Ping of the African Union Commission told reporters last week that the anti-black attacks were one reason many African governments refuse to recognize the new regime as Libya’s legitimate government.
“Blacks are being killed. Blacks are having their throats slit. Blacks are accused of being mercenaries,” Ping explained. “Do you think it’s normal in a country that’s a third black that blacks are confused with mercenaries?”
In the United States, Americans of African ancestry have been fiercely critical of developments, too. “The Libya war proved to the world that the lives of Black people have no value for NATO, Western leaders, and editorial writers,” wrote Black Star News in a piece blasting the New York Times’ mild rebuke of the genocide.
And U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. joined a growing chorus of Congressmen calling for war-crimes investigations. "Racism in the form of ethnic cleansing, killing and genocide is wrong anytime, anyplace and against anybody in the world," he said on September 14.
While some analysts celebrate the apparent downfall of the brutal Gaddafi regime, fears are growing that the worst may be yet to come for Libya - especially for blacks. And as The New American has reported since March, the well-documented terrorist affiliations of rebel leaders have experts worried that the emerging Islamist regime could be even worse than the last. Wiki • Attitude • FAQThe Nexian • Nexus Research • The OHTIn New York, we wrote the legal number on our arms in marker...To call a lawyer if we were arrested. In Istanbul, People wrote their blood types on their arms. I hear in Egypt, They just write Their names. גם זה יעבור
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Yes, i've heard about these things. It looks like mr sarkozy didn't realy think it through when he decided to interveine. The libyan war isn't a simple story with good guys on one side and bad guys on the other side. In these kind of situations, from the french revolution to the libyan, when the regime falls, for many people it's 'payback time'. I hope they'll quickly find gadhaffi and hang him. That could maybe put an end to these things. At the same time, many of the revolution's leaders are old alies of gadhaffi themselves who where as much part in gadhafi's atrocities as gadhaffi himself. I think it's good that gadhaffi's regime is at least partly gone, because he has supported many genocidal regimes in africa as well as many terrorist organisations and he had the potential to cause a lot more trouble in many parts of africa and the rest of the world. He can still cause a lot of harm as long as he's out there. But the west has not done a good job in libya so far. Interveining in other nations and then letting others do the fighting...the same old recipe for disaster repeated over and over
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Im very glad this is being discussed. Im off out for a couple of days, yet I will say for now that the UN and NATOs behaviour is disgusting imperialism of the lowest form. "Mama matrix most mysterious." James Joyce
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jdubs wrote:Im very glad this is being discussed. Im off out for a couple of days, yet I will say for now that the UN and NATOs behaviour is disgusting imperialism of the lowest form. I have no clue what the motives for this action where... What i have not been able to find in the media is how serious south africa's attempts to enforce a truce where and how likely they where to succeed. Many african leaders are very angry at the west and acuse NATO of imperialism, but it is unclear to me whether there is ANY worldleader who's got clean hands when it comes to libya.
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Good post Snozz! I dont doubt that such crimes are being committed, but Im keeping an open mind on some aspects of this. I also find it interesting how the rebels are now "Al Qaeda-linked" and Islamists; IMO, this is setting the US publics' mindset for what is to come.This, I think, is due to one of the top NTCs people saying Palestines problems are dear to the Libyan people & wont be ignored. Coupled this with the thaw in the relationship with the moderate Turks and the recent assault in Cairos Israeli embassy by a civilian hoard AND (not much brodacast in an signicant way in the Western media) are fairly large protests in Amman outside the israel embassy there. I(n terms of AlQaeda links, sure alot of Libyans spent time in Afganistan fighting the Russians in the 1980s, plus hung around there after this ceased, including having dealings with Bin Laden but they rejected his ideology and the extent of their Jihadi ambitions was solely to oust the Colonel.What riles the Americans is that members of the LIFG (Libyan Islamic Fighting Group) sent many fighters to Irag in the Gulf War of the last decade. I believe that Israel is getting unsettled by the profound changes which are hemming them in.Many would say that the ideology of Al Qaeda has been comprehensively rejected by the Arabs as manifested by the Arabs, but I reckon that the ousting of these countries corrupt leaders who jumped to Americas tune by severely clamping down on their own 'islamists' etc has certainly been a goal of Al Qaeda, albeit achieved in a non-jihadist way.Interestingly, Dr Al Zawahiri recently released an adio message stating that AQ is happy to see the back of these tyrants as a result o0f the Arab Spring. The phrase "There are many ways to skin a cat' jumps to mind. Im also intrigued by the use of the word 'Genocide' with regard to this; it seems, IMO, that this term is very selectively applied and usually for reasons of realpolitik.For example, the refusal of US presidents and other nations' leaders to call the tragedy of the Armenians at the hands of the Turks in the early part of the 20th century as Genocide (in the 90s this was to maintain airbases there to harrass Iraq.) I am paranoid of my brain. It thinks all the time, even when I'm asleep. My thoughts assail me. Murderous lechers they are. Thought is the assassin of thought. Like a man stabbing himself with one hand while the other hand tries to stop the blade. Like an explosion that destroys the detonator. I am paranoid of my brain. It makes me unsettled and ill at ease. Makes me chase my tail, freezes my eyes and shuts me down. Watches me. Eats my head. It destroys me.
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Israel...they don't seem to get that they are seriously undermining the legitimacy of the israeli state themselves.
Israel is not seen as a friend in the islamic world, that's no secret. But an enemy you can negotiate with is an enemy who's position still has some legitimacy in the eyes of it's opponents, even when many islamic states do not officially accept israel as a state.
Even the brits where (and still are) aware of this in the northern irish situation.
If israel continues it's policy like this, it will simply not exist anymore within a few decades. It's major ally, america most certainly cannot afford another war in the middle east, although they would with the same certainly engage in another war to protect israel if it where to come to that. America would proudly march towards it's own military and economical defeat when israel is involved. Another war in the middle east would be a very great, worldwide disaster and could potentially even escalate into a third worldwar (if saudi arabia and iran are drawn into a war against eachother for instance).
Israel may survive another war if it would happen now. But a new war would damage it so much, economically and militarily, that it most certainly would not survive the next war.
I just don't understand how they can be this stupid.
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Great points CC...I really appreciate getting that historical context, it helps a lot with unwrapping the labels applied by media outlets. The Egyptian issues are entirely suppressed from the news here, it's really quite alarming, the degree to which certain stories are just blacked out on this end. Israel news coverage is at the other end...plentiful and full of garbage and misinformation that has to be filtered out. It's a challenge just trying to piece together a coherent understanding of where everything is at throughout the region on a day to day basis. Completely agree with your points on the usage of "genocide." Just flip through a US history book, there's not one mention of genocide with respect to any of the indigenous american cultures. Wiki • Attitude • FAQThe Nexian • Nexus Research • The OHTIn New York, we wrote the legal number on our arms in marker...To call a lawyer if we were arrested. In Istanbul, People wrote their blood types on their arms. I hear in Egypt, They just write Their names. גם זה יעבור
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So by assisting in dethroning the current government through violent intervention (ala NATO bombings) as well as supplementing anti-Gadaffi forces with utilities, France, Britain, and the U.S. among other countries have effectively furthered destabilization in Libya similarly to our actions in Iraq years ago. Who ever the people in Libya vote into power now to replace Gadaffi will certainly reflect the general perspective of society. This article doesn't make my views for tomorrow's Libya optimistic. This article reports both a disturbing story, and reveals a sad truth about other media outlets ignoring such atrocities. In regards to responding to violence with violence, to horror with terror, why people believe justice is best acted out as harm certainly has never made sense to me. Do not listen to anything, "Steely" says. He is a made up character that his owner likes to role play with. His owner is very delusional and everything he says is completely untrue and ridiculous. Hate is the choice of a clouded mind. -"It takes humility to remember who we are"- "There has to be evil so that good can prove its purity above it." - Buddha
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Steely wrote:So by assisting in dethroning the current government through violent intervention (ala NATO bombings) as well as supplementing anti-Gadaffi forces with utilities, France, Britain, and the U.S. among other countries have effectively furthered destabilization in Libya similarly to our actions in Iraq years ago. Who ever the people in Libya vote into power now to replace Gadaffi will certainly reflect the general perspective of society. This article doesn't make my views for tomorrow's Libya optimistic. This article reports both a disturbing story, and reveals a sad truth about other media outlets ignoring such atrocities.
In regards to responding to violence with violence, to horror with terror, why people believe justice is best acted out as harm certainly has never made sense to me. Don't forget we also armed/helped the mujhadeen get weapons back in the 80's/90's and we all know how that worked out. Its time to adopt a non-interventionist policy, and stop trying to influence world events to further our economic needs. But that's just one of the US's tough problems that i have absolutely no faith in the politicians to solve. "let those who have talked to the elves, find each other and band together" -TMK
In a society in which nearly everybody is dominated by somebody else's mind or by a disembodied mind, it becomes increasingly difficult to learn the truth about the activities of governments and corporations, about the quality or value of products, or about the health of one's own place and economy. In such a society, also, our private economies will depend less upon the private ownership of real, usable property, and more upon property that is institutional and abstract, beyond individual control, such as money, insurance policies, certificates of deposit, stocks, etc. And as our private economies become more abstract, the mutual, free helps and pleasures of family and community life will be supplanted by a kind of displaced citizenship and by commerce with impersonal and self-interested suppliers... The great enemy of freedom is the alignment of political power with wealth. This alignment destroys the commonwealth - that is, the natural wealth of localities and the local economies of household, neighborhood, and community - and so destroys democracy, of which the commonwealth is the foundation and practical means.” - Wendell Berry
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SnozzleBerry wrote:Completely agree with your points on the usage of "genocide." Just flip through a US history book, there's not one mention of genocide with respect to any of the indigenous american cultures. Genocide has become a judicial and political term. It has a bit of a perverse side-effect that human rights have become bureaucratised: If a government commit's mass murder against it's own people it's all perfectly fine and considered to be a purely internal affair according to international right. If a government discriminates certain groups of people, it's also considered perfectly fine and an internal affair. When a government discriminates people and commits mass murder, it's still not seen as a big problem by international law. But only when the discrimination of people and mass murder are combined in a very specific manner, then international law suddenly says: "this is an abomination, all lines are being crossed here". I don't see the logic of that.
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polytrip wrote:But only when the discrimination of people and mass murder are combined in a very specific manner, then international law suddenly says: "this is an abomination, all lines are being crossed here". I don't see the logic of that. Well...there are some truly fascinating works by James Peck in this vein, the most recent of which is entitled "Ideal Illusions." It explains how the US co-opted the Human Rights' groups language and politics and used this to transition from the Cold War era into the modern era while retaining the political framework to extend its influence and protect its interests under the guide of "Humanitarian Activities." Given the US's unique global standing, this has had tremendous impact on the usage of this terminology/strategy by the rest of the world. If you get a chance, it's worth a read...it's a bit dry and perhaps less-relevant for non-americans...but it's incredibly informative. Wiki • Attitude • FAQThe Nexian • Nexus Research • The OHTIn New York, we wrote the legal number on our arms in marker...To call a lawyer if we were arrested. In Istanbul, People wrote their blood types on their arms. I hear in Egypt, They just write Their names. גם זה יעבור
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Interfering in someone else's affairs without background knowledge of all conflicting perspectives makes any sort of outside intervention or peace keeping attempt harmful. It's especially important never to choose a side in conflicts, and to protect those who can not protect themselves; why instead arm the defenseless and/or harm the powerful? Help me clear up some head fog, Article in O.P. wrote:NATO and U.S.-backed rebel forces in Libya are reportedly engaging in systematic attacks against the black population in what some analysts have called war crimes and even genocide, sparking condemnation worldwide from human-rights groups and officials. This and other sentences imply that N.A.T.O troops themselves are there in Libya assisting in attacks on the black-Libyan populace, but according to this analysis http://en.rian.ru/analys...20110826/166211240.html, it is confirmed that British Special Forces are on the ground, although N.A.T.O has stated they refuse to put troops into Libya (It also discusses the possible inevitability of N.A.T.O troops entering Libya): Are N.A.T.O troops inside of Libya right now? Do not listen to anything, "Steely" says. He is a made up character that his owner likes to role play with. His owner is very delusional and everything he says is completely untrue and ridiculous. Hate is the choice of a clouded mind. -"It takes humility to remember who we are"- "There has to be evil so that good can prove its purity above it." - Buddha
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No, there are no NATO troops in libya, there are american, british and french troops (and probably egyptian troops as well) in libya who operate under american, british and french flag.
Isnt formalism a wonderfull thing?
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