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#21 Posted : 9/15/2011 3:31:53 AM

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Haven't tried it with shrooms, but several times I had experiences with 4aco-dmt* and for a potentiating harmala either Caapi Copy or THH (100mg copy). Taking them both at the same time, the onset of the subsequent experience was very fast, maybe 10 minutes. And, the experience was WAY colorful compared to shrooms alone or anything else I've tried. It did not substantially alter the mind-aspect of the journey, or the duration.

* 4aco-dmt is a research chemical that has some very strong chemical and experiential similarities to psilocybin. It may be one of the more "popular" RC'c, but it does lack a long term safety record. In trying it, I took what seemed like prudent precautions, given everything I could learn about it beforehand from fellow psychonauts as well as published material. I have found it a deep material to work with.
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#22 Posted : 9/15/2011 7:27:03 AM

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I have also used mushroom tea steeped with some lemon juice. My only advice, again, is to advance very slowly and listen to your body... If you make a tea, sip, don't pound the glass. Smile
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#23 Posted : 9/15/2011 12:55:58 PM

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OK, so today, I have microdosed both - A big sip from a strong mimosa/white vine brew (perhaps 15-20g vine/ .4g mimosa), and 5 libs...I was going to go the whole way (120 Vine/ 3-4g mimosa/ building the libs up) but was intererrupted, pre-sup, by a friend in need - however, I think this will help introduce this mix into the body. This is one of teh only times Ive microdosed so this will be an experiment in itself! Smile
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#24 Posted : 9/15/2011 3:51:16 PM

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I took Psilohuasca the other day, Red Caapi (a couple of cups) and a small dose of liberty caps followed by another cup of yage and some extra spice.
At no point did i feel any negative effects from the liberty cap / harmala mixture. I would be inclined to consume a full dose of vine but keep the mushroom dose relatively light. This is the optimum approach for Pharmahuasca and Yage.
75 liberty caps is a nice dose on its own.

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#25 Posted : 9/15/2011 10:59:00 PM

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Well I ate half of them yesterday, with lemon tek that was quite intense, possibly as they are as fresh as a daisy. Probably gonna try with half of that again, so like 15, eating them quite slow. The microdoses today definately altered me somewhat, which was quite a surprise! It was nice to walk about with a bit of tryptamine energy for a couple of hours, even though I was socialising and stuff.

Will run out at this rate, another little trips in order Laughing (sorry for the terrible joke there).

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#26 Posted : 9/26/2011 12:07:32 PM

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OK, so the other day, me and my friend drank about 90g of vine each, followed by about 6g of mimosa. The aya experience was fairly mild...my friend wanted some, and it was his first time. Also, 180g was all I had ready brewed up! It was pleasant though, and very lovely and peaceful, yet the DMT couldnt quite take full hold, down to non-complete MAO inhibition.

After, we ate about 30 liberty caps. On the come up there was an incredible rush - almost too intense. It was also accompanied by a fairly uncomfortable feeling, of my mind being seperated from my mouth, so it felt like although I was speaking it didnt really feel like me. Then it levelled out, and it was quite pleasant. It was like a caapi glow and grounding, with mild mushroom visuals - it went on for a long time!

I thought it had stopped, and about 6 hours later while trying to sleep, I was having fairly intense and extremely quick closed eye visuals. I couldnt believe it!

All in all, pretty mild. Next time I am going to up the caapi to a full, stuck-to-the-floor-for-hours dose, and eat about the same amount of mushrooms, maybe a couple more. This will give me a true psilohausca experience I think, which I will write up elsewhere. This one wasnt spectacular in the slightest, hence why I have outlined it here, as opposed to giving its own report.

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#27 Posted : 9/26/2011 4:59:29 PM

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I think I took like 1/3 of a gram of cubes when I took them with caapi. I would take half a gram next time..but I can get a decent experience with just 1g of cubes in a tea alone so some might need more..
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#28 Posted : 9/26/2011 5:11:55 PM
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If you've tested it out and you didn't have some allergic reaction and you dindn't experience any negative side-effects like some people do, i think you don't need to worry about taking too much.

Even though psilohuasca can get quite intense, it's always quite managable compared to many other psychedelic's. Whenever you would feel it's getting too intense, you can just lie down, surrender and you'll be fine.

If half a gram of shrooms was fairly mild to you, i don't think 1 gram or 1.5 grams would suddenly feel like a heavy overdose.
 
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#29 Posted : 9/26/2011 5:17:56 PM

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oh I should mention..I took that 1/3rd of a gram with caapi and maybe 2g of mimosa..so I dunno what dose I would take without the mimosa..I only ever took mushrooms with caapi along with mimosa.
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#30 Posted : 9/26/2011 6:10:23 PM

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Xt wrote:
I would be inclined to consume a full dose of vine but keep the mushroom dose relatively light. This is the optimum approach for Pharmahuasca and Yage.


Yeah from what i've heard this is the way to approach this mushroom/caapi combination ^

I drank 100g caapi followed by 1g of cubensis and had a beautiful experience many months ago, but i've only tried this combination once

a friend of mine ate 3.5grams of good cubes this summer and about 3 hours into the trip i gave her 100mg of extracted rue harmalas. she absolutely LOVED it



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#31 Posted : 9/29/2011 1:31:01 AM

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.but I can get a decent experience with jus t 1g of cubes in a tea alone so some might need more..


I dunno man if I do shroms, I now take like 200 liberty caps in periodic fistfuls mixed with copious red wine- I kinda feel the need to breakthrough repeatedly or its a bit of a waste. Also this year is a bumper crop so it would be rude not to hehe.

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#32 Posted : 9/29/2011 1:34:04 AM

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Wouldnt do that with the vine though, I doubt Id ever come back lol.
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