I had a dream that when my friend was making changa he added a dash of thh harmine and harmaline to it. He smoked it about 3 times so far. The effects were interesting. He said that it took him no were near hyperspace no matter how much he smoked but was just like aya and lasted for a good amount of time, And it could be repetitively smoked with out any tolerance build up. He said that there was 1g of b. caapi leaf and 1.3g of dmt. The maoi was not measured just small dashes. Has anybody else had a dream like this and have a theory on why?

nope does not sound right to me.

Where are you getting the THH from? Flowing Visions THH has been shown to be a scam and mostly just harmine. theres a section of the forum on that topic

Anyways harmalas tend to lengthen the experience and add a whole other element of their own to it as well.. It sounds like you just didn't get a big enough amount of dmt in you fast enough. What are you smoking it out of? Hold the hits in as long as possible to!!

Also, there isn't any tolerance with DMT or harmalas. If anything it seems like there is more of a reverse tolerance over time i think

When I speak of tolerance I am talking about how after you take it you have about a minute to get it all in then you have to wait an hour before it will work again. In the dream it was smoked out of a pipe. I don't think not getting enough is an issue. I have read about other people not getting blast off either with adding maoi freebase to changa.Also could you possibly link me to the thread of flowing visions being a scam with thh. That is the only place I can find it online.

*Never mind i found it.

As far as I can discern that whole 1 minute/1 hour thing is a big myth. I've smoked a minute into my journey, 2 minutes in, 3 minutes in, 5 minutes in, 2 minutes after....it always hits hard. If you feel there's a tolerance issue, there's most likely something else at play so long as you're still vaporizing and holding in your lungs equally.

Really?! Ive dreamed of doing dmt about 650 times and not once tried doing it multiple times with in the hour because I did not want to waste it.

Yeah, I just go right back up, or if I'm already going, I just go deeper...or faster...or both

Looks like I got some dreaming to do

dream on (*steven tyler screech)

I have some caapi vine alks and caapi leaf menstruum in my blend. Seems to do the trick nicely, 10 minute peaks, alien music and deep insights are the order of the day.

Maybe you should look into extracting your own alks or making a menstruum?

On a side note I will often blast off around 3 times in an hour - hour and a half.

eh, I am going to be honest. I just don't feel like it.Are there any other vendors with thh. From what I understand discussion of sources is restricted. Could some one pm me for some help. ive looked every were

way to take initiative.

No one has thh, afaik. Flowing visions was a scam, the products contained everything from DMT to large percentages of harmalas that were not thh.

Seriously, why not extract your own? If the only reason is you "just don't feel like it" perhaps it's just not the proper time for you to explore with caapi extracts/thh.

With regards to the OP I have found that excessive amounts of extra harmalas in changa dampens my experiences too. I have tried quite a variety of mixtures and this has happened with pretty much all of them. I’ve also spoken to another person here who has found the same effect. Maybe he will see this thread and chime in.

Yea, it is very ayahuasca like isn't it?

There is a suppliers section of the forum. only the discussion of acquiring ILLEGAL plants/chemicals is restricted. You wont find any sources of thh though. If you spent all the time your wasting searching for thh instead on extracting some caapi alkaloids you would have a pile of harmalas (including thh) that was much bigger and much cheaper than anything you'd find online.

The main thing keeping me from doing it is that I imagine it is some what difficult to isolate the alkaloids from each other (harmine, harmaline, thh) I haven't done much research in the subject though.

I don't know much about the subject, but I would say extracting caapi isn't difficult and it's totally worth it. To separate the harmine, thh etc. seems unnecessary for me. Even when they have different effects. I suppose they are combined in the plant for a reason.

I have looked into basic extraction techs. I know i can do that. but I am interested in doing personal research with each individual alkaloid. I am sure the ratios that the vine supplies naturally is most superior though

Perhaps look into separating harmine/harmaline...then perhaps read up on the people who have tried zinc reductions.

There's a wealth of knowledge here, perhaps with more reading you'll start to "feel like it"

Finding--

My understanding is that TTH is higher occuring in Caapi leaves, rather than vine. Unfortunately, the vine tek does not seem to precipitate the alkaloids with leaves... not sure why. I was considering trying a manske, but need to do some more reading before making the attempt.