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I did a little experiment with a small quantity of the salvinorin A I recently extracted: I dissloved a small amount of salvinorin A in acetone, then gradually added hot water until the solution just started to get a bit cloudy. I allowed it to cool overnight, and the next morning I was greeted by lots of small needle-like crystals. Nice! gibran2 attached the following image(s): salvinorin3.JPG (87kb) downloaded 469 time(s).gibran2 is a fictional character. Any resemblance to anyone living or dead is purely coincidental.
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Beautiful! Convert a melodic element into a rhythmic element...
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Nice salvia shards you got there!
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WOW giberan!!!! Think of opening a nexus only store? If you are reading my post you should be reading this, Understand I am very immature and sarcastic anything said by me should be consider as such unless it is more than 3 sentences long.
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incredible. They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
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Oh my, look at that fluffy goodness! Delicious.
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Nice to see you, to see you..NICE! "Eat your vegetables and do as you're told, or you won't be going to the funfair!"
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NEAT!!! Just wondering, why does this happen when water is mixed with acetone?
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Salvinorin A is very soluble in acetone, but insoluble in water. Adding enough hot water that the salvinorin A isn't so comfortable in solution and allowing it to slowly cool lets the molecules coming out of solution to aggregate into larger crystals. I wonder if insufflating 10 mg or so would accomplish anything, or if the purity/ordered structure of the crystals would prevent the salvinorin A from entering the bloodstream through the nasal mucosa quickly enough. I've read one interesting account of snuffing an extract of S. divinorum, but they used an unpurified acetone extract of the leaves evaporated to an amorphous powder.
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I'm down to be a guinea pig for that trial Convert a melodic element into a rhythmic element...
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righteous!! Let the plants guide you, for they teach lessons beyond what we humans can offer. Distorted is our perception of reality, because reality is much more distorted than we could ever perceive it to be.
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Entropymancer wrote:I wonder if insufflating 10 mg or so would accomplish anything, or if the purity/ordered structure of the crystals would prevent the salvinorin A from entering the bloodstream through the nasal mucosa quickly enough. I've read one interesting account of snuffing an extract of S. divinorum, but they used an unpurified acetone extract of the leaves evaporated to an amorphous powder. I tried insufflating 10mg and got no effects. gibran2 is a fictional character. Any resemblance to anyone living or dead is purely coincidental.
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gibran2 wrote:Entropymancer wrote:I wonder if insufflating 10 mg or so would accomplish anything, or if the purity/ordered structure of the crystals would prevent the salvinorin A from entering the bloodstream through the nasal mucosa quickly enough. I've read one interesting account of snuffing an extract of S. divinorum, but they used an unpurified acetone extract of the leaves evaporated to an amorphous powder. I tried insufflating 10mg and got no effects. sugar crystals. Would be my first guess. That's a bummer, but had that been Salvinorin A and you took that dose....yikes! --edit. What does it taste like? If your religion, faith, devotion, or self proclaimed spirituality is not directly leading to an increase in kindness, empathy, compassion and tolerance for others then you have been misled.
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joedirt wrote:sugar crystals. Would be my first guess. That's a bummer, but had that been Salvinorin A and you took that dose....yikes!
--edit. What does it taste like? It's smell is reminiscent of... something that I can't place. Not unpleasant. It's also very mild - no irritation, no burning. I was certain that an insufflated or sublingual dose is much larger than a smoked dose, so I knew I wouldn't be going too deep, but I was hoping for something. Oh well. Salvinorin A is not very eager to enter into the bloodstream. Next test - 10mg dissolved in a very small amount of acetone, then dilute with water and take sublingually (acetone is non-toxic orally in small quantities). gibran2 is a fictional character. Any resemblance to anyone living or dead is purely coincidental.
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MINE!!! "Eat your vegetables and do as you're told, or you won't be going to the funfair!"
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Not I
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gibran2 wrote:joedirt wrote:sugar crystals. Would be my first guess. That's a bummer, but had that been Salvinorin A and you took that dose....yikes!
--edit. What does it taste like? It's smell is reminiscent of... something that I can't place. Not unpleasant. It's also very mild - no irritation, no burning. I was certain that an insufflated or sublingual dose is much larger than a smoked dose, so I knew I wouldn't be going too deep, but I was hoping for something. Oh well. Salvinorin A is not very eager to enter into the bloodstream. Next test - 10mg dissolved in a very small amount of acetone, then dilute with water and take sublingually (acetone is non-toxic orally in small quantities). 10mg is larger than the initial dose I tried with spice. I literall started witha speck, then 2 mgs, then 5 mgs, them 10, then 15, then 20...launch! You are right it is going to be a larger dose, but the experience is also going to be a good bit longer than smoking salvia. I would hate to take a very large dose and be stuck in salvia space for an hour....of course I'm not really called to salvia space much. this is a pretty unexplored realm for me. If your religion, faith, devotion, or self proclaimed spirituality is not directly leading to an increase in kindness, empathy, compassion and tolerance for others then you have been misled.
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joedirt wrote:10mg is larger than the initial dose I tried with spice. I literall started witha speck, then 2 mgs, then 5 mgs, them 10, then 15, then 20...launch! You are right it is going to be a larger dose, but the experience is also going to be a good bit longer than smoking salvia. I would hate to take a very large dose and be stuck in salvia space for an hour....of course I'm not really called to salvia space much. this is a pretty unexplored realm for me. Tried it yesterday: 10mg dissolved in a very small amount of acetone, then added water to dilute. The salvinorin A immediately precipitated out, forming a milky white solution (a suspension of very fine particles of salvinorin A). I put this in my mouth, let it circulate around - under tongue, sides of mouth, everywhere. After about 15 minutes, I swallowed it. The result... Nothing! Next test: 1mg vaporized in the GVG. gibran2 is a fictional character. Any resemblance to anyone living or dead is purely coincidental.
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gibran2 wrote:joedirt wrote:10mg is larger than the initial dose I tried with spice. I literall started witha speck, then 2 mgs, then 5 mgs, them 10, then 15, then 20...launch! You are right it is going to be a larger dose, but the experience is also going to be a good bit longer than smoking salvia. I would hate to take a very large dose and be stuck in salvia space for an hour....of course I'm not really called to salvia space much. this is a pretty unexplored realm for me. Tried it yesterday: 10mg dissolved in a very small amount of acetone, then added water to dilute. The salvinorin A immediately precipitated out, forming a milky white solution (a suspension of very fine particles of salvinorin A). I put this in my mouth, let it circulate around - under tongue, sides of mouth, everywhere. After about 15 minutes, I swallowed it. The result... Nothing! Next test: 1mg vaporized in the GVG. Good luck Careful not to vaporize too much of those crystals, I find dosing salvia extracts is hard enough... Pure salvinorin would be the last molecule i'd want to take too much of. *- also you may want to take note of the much more powerful, ego ripping, dissociating effects of vaporizing the purified crystals... (I am relating this regarding the aggressive onset of effects of vaporized freebase DMT, compared to smoking changa or enhanced leaf..)* The key here is to find a method for salvinorin to easily permeate the membrane... DMSO perhaps? I enjoyed the slower absorption of the quid method much more then inhaled. maybe you should just try a much larger dose sublingually.. maybe 50-100mg? Now that may be too much, maybe try continuous dosing of 10mg until you can perceive effects? I know extremely large amounts of leaves must be chewed for a decent experience. And maybe instead of acetone diluted in water, you could a minimal amount of ethanol, absorption is better with a minimal amount of solvent, >1ml, and the compound being completely aqueous next step... intravenous injection? Expect nothing, Receive everything. "Experiment and extrapolation is the only means the organic chemists (humans) currrently have - in contrast to "God" (and possibly R. B. Woodward). " He alone sees truly who sees the Absolute the same in every creature...seeing the same Absolute everywhere, he does not harm himself or others. - The Bhagavad Gita "The most beautiful thing we can experience, is the mysterious. The source of all true art and science."
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Mindlusion wrote:Good luck Careful not to vaporize too much of those crystals, I find dosing salvia extracts is hard enough... Pure salvinorin would be the last molecule i'd want to take too much of. *- also you may want to take note of the much more powerful, ego ripping, dissociating effects of vaporizing the purified crystals... (I am relating this regarding the aggressive onset of effects of vaporized freebase DMT, compared to smoking changa or enhanced leaf..)* The key here is to find a method for salvinorin to easily permeate the membrane... DMSO perhaps? I enjoyed the slower absorption of the quid method much more then inhaled. maybe you should just try a much larger dose sublingually.. maybe 50-100mg? Now that may be too much, maybe try continuous dosing of 10mg until you can perceive effects? I know extremely large amounts of leaves must be chewed for a decent experience. And maybe instead of acetone diluted in water, you could a minimal amount of ethanol, absorption is better with a minimal amount of solvent, >1ml, and the compound being completely aqueous next step... intravenous injection? Yes – I thought about how DMT effects compare when using the GVG vs. less efficient devices. But I think 1mg is a reasonable amount. I’ve had 2mg doses in the form of 20X without too much trouble, so I think 1mg isn’t unreasonably high. I’ve thought about trying larger sublingual doses, but 100mg? Even if it worked, it would be very wasteful. Based on my extraction and growing results, that’s almost as much salvinorin A as is contained in a medium-sized plant (about 35g dried leaf). My guess is that IV administration is more similar to smoked extract than it is to quidding, so no advantages there. gibran2 is a fictional character. Any resemblance to anyone living or dead is purely coincidental.
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