That is normal when you quit. As much as some people wont admit it cannabis when used heavily is physically addictive. The studies are out there and there have already been other threads on the topic. If you are a chronic heavy cannabis smoker odds are you will have some physical withdrawl sypmtoms for a week or so when you stop. It is not like other heavily addictive drugs though. You dont need to go to detox to stop smokin cannabis, but still it sucks that first week.

I dont think it is healthy at all to smoke cannabis all day long every day. People who think that is good for them I personally think just feel that way becasue they do use it that way..you dont really realize how much it is effecting you until you live without it for a while. I gained back alot of my energy when I stopped smoking and felt alot better, and I was already growing my own and getting my own..it was not about money..it was about how it was effecting me.

I can tell now when I do smoke, that often I feel tired and burnt out the entire next day if I smoke more than like 1 time the night before. I feel heavy and useless and sometimes it gives me this headache. If I spend like 2 days smoking pot, I feel like shit the days after and it is enough to make me not want it for a month sometimes. That is just the way it is. Smoking cannabis heavily is not good for you in my experience and it can also be mildly physically addictive if you use it heavily.

Cannabis is a great tool IMO, it is underrated as a psychedelic and I love it..I have just learned that I cant relate to it in a healthy mannor when I approach it the way I have in the past.

It is a medicine IMO and has proven itself useful for cancer and arthritus etc..but I also think that alot of people rely on it when they could also make other changes in they're life like eating healthier etc.

I kinda agree with this but look.. When you get really blazed by just smoking a bowl or better yet a volcano to yourself, 2-3 times a day.. Or as much as you want to.. and if you practice and get to a level where you can function like that, it's fucking rewarding, and yeah if your like the average person it'll take a while to get past the really high all the time, like too high to do anything part, but if you're really motivated weed won't stop you from doing anything. It definitely enhances my life.

I don't think weed is physically good for me... I know it's not, smoking anything is bad for you, but what I meant was that it's not that bad physically, no more than alcohol or your job, probably less.. And very good for your mental health, better than alcohol and your job for that matter. If they had potent edibles at every gas station we'd all be in heaven.

I also think it could be good for someone in an indirect way on a physical level. I believe that the body is a house for the spirit, so any illness is a result of the sickness of the spirit, and if you smoke marijuana your stimulating your mind, you feel euphoric... Maybe start to alleviate whatever was causing the sickness through time and consideration while smoking.. See how this could keep people from being so sick all the time? By showing them how simple it is to be happy. I'm never really sick, maybe a cold once or twice a year in the winter. Anyway, just a thought, I have no proof of this.

A couple of years ago I would have agreed whole heartedly. And yes, I have certainly reaped many rewards from smoking daily, BUT after a while it certainly has made me lazy and lethargic, and while I LOVE LOVE LOVE weed, it is not conducive to the progress I need to make in my life at this stage. I do not judge others who wish to wake up, smoke, go to Uni / work / what ever, but it just doesn't suit me any more. It is a treat now as far as I am concerned, and my bank account will also thank me for it in the long run.

maybe once I have raised kids and retired I will go back to waking and baking, but I need to seize the bull by the horns, and being semi conscious while doing that is not going to help. Fact is, after a while, it can and does affect motivation. I don't know you or your weed smoking habits, maybe you are one of those people who enjoys being stoned all the time and can operate at 100%, but that certainly does not apply to every one.

This doesn't mean I will completely stop, more that my attitude has changed over years of daily, heavy exposure, I actually enjoy being sober, and when I do get stoned it is so much nicer, because it is no longer the norm. I had 1/2 a joint on Saturday night, and it was fantastic, I haven't buzzed off weed like that in years, there is a lot to be said for a little abstinence.

Anyone who's smoking daily should make a video diary of him/herself doing it and compare it to life without weed. I was smoking daily for quite long time and even when the effect was mild due to tolerance, I couldn't stop it. It's really really bad if one cannot stop something even if he/she wants to. It's not freedom

Ehm...

I think the main answer to this from most would be "I like SOME psychedelics". There's an awful lot of psychedelic substances which are pretty damn nasty

Anyways, I use DMT/harmalas/mushrooms a hell of a lot more than I use weed, but I wouldn't say I didn't like it. It's just not as useful to me.

Sure, but you have to concider that long term chronic cannabis use comes with various compications such as adrenal burnout and a lowering of the bodies own supplies of anandamide due to the fact that THC and CDB etc are consistantly present in heavy users so the body limits it's own natural anandamide levels. This is where withdrawl from cannabis sets in. I get the feeling you want to only look at what might be good abotu cannabis without takin anything else into concideration.

Do you know what adrenal burnout can do to a person? Smoking cannabis every single day all day long is a poor choice of techniques one can apply in order to keeo from being sick all the time. Sounds like a recipe for a variety of issues to manifest where the person is so hooked on cannabis they live in denial of it and claim cannabis as some kind of fix everything miracle.

I am not saying cannabis does not have valid medical uses..it has alot of them. Way more than most other medicines..but that does not mean we should just sit here and remain naive towards some of the more negative side effects of heavy use

"I believe that the body is a house for the spirit, so any illness is a result of the sickness of the spirit"

yeah well..you see the problem there is that you cant throw that theory very far without hitting a brick wall. This is why we have terms like "neurotoxin" and "virus". I agree that alot of illness if not all is sickness of the spirit, but not in such a limited sense as I think you are using the term..I think that eating toxic processed foods is a sickness of the spirit, but it still has a physical counterpart to it that manifests..and as far as I can see most cannabis smokers are more than willing to much out of shit food all day long. I live in the cannabis capital of the world man. There is probabily more weed here than there is in amsterdam and smoke friendly cafes all over the place. The idea that smoking weed all day is going to save you from all illness just sounds rediculous and naive from my perspective.

I was extremely ill at one point and in and out of the clinic all the time and I was smoking an ounce a week. Sure as hell did not save my ass. I quit smoking pot alltogether for 6 months and changed things in my life and started to heal. Why would you even get 1 or 2 colds a year if cannabis is going to stop people from getting sick?

I think cannabis can definatily stop tumor growths and help immunity etc when it is needed..but I dont believe that daily use over long periods is the best approach for MOST people..people who are already sick and comprimised then yes I think it can be good sometimes, and for people going through chemo that need to eat..but in healthy people the idea of smoking weed all day ever day and ending up tired with adrenal burnout etc cant be good.

I dont really buy alot of the whole medical cannabis stuff though in general. I dont think living on cannabis is the best treatment for arthritus for example..I had arthritus starting at 23 and my diet fixed it..I have spoken with like 50 year old people who went raw and eliminated it completely..cannabis is just a crutch IMO in alot of these cases..it can help but I mean..I would rather thrive than survive. Cannabis is not a replacement for a healthy lifestyle. It's inclusion in moderation is a part of my choice in a healthy life..but in no way do I want to rely on it to the extent that I believe I wont be sick becasue of it or that I need to lean on it to make it through the day.

Indeed. Cannabis may seem like a cure-all at first but after you have smoked everyday for 10 years it definitely shows it's dark side. It my experience anyway.

I guess it could be just me personally, but I would never classify weed as a psychedelic. I find the effects completely different than what I consider psychedelic. From my personal experience, I find the epiphanies from weed are very shallow and foggy, and it only seems true while you're high. I find weed makes your thoughts seem more insightful, whereas serotonin psychedelics actually make them more insightful. Psychedelic insight is very crisp, clear and true.

I know it depends on each person, so I'm not blaming weed for this type of thinking in particular, but I find that weed facilitates this type of pseudo-insight. For example, back in highschool, my friend, who's a big stoner, once wrote an essay for english class. He told me the next day that he wrote an amazing essay while high. I was almost positive he didn't proof read it sober. Then in class, he was asked randomly to read his essay out loud. It was horrible. I remember laughing in my head, one sentence in particular: "Sadness was a major feeling I felt during sports." I'm pretty sure weed makes that sentence feel way more epic than it actually is... This is the kind of vibe I get from weed. It just feels fake to me.

More of my personal experience. The reason I tried weed was because I was searching for some sort of spiritual experience. I had a clear image of what I thought weed was like, and when I smoked it, I didn't feel anything at all. Thinking I didn't smoke enough, I smoked more and more and more, maybe 3 joints worth. By then, all I felt was fuckton of confusion. In the next times I smoked weed, I was expecting to feel an overwhelming sense of joy and colorful patterns, but all I got was subtle feeling of being kind of "dumb and happy". So I lost hope in weed. Then my friend suggested I try mushrooms. I had no idea what I was in for, only to find out it was exactly what I had expected weed to be. It was that place, that spiritual experience I was looking for.

Weed still makes things taste really good though

Weed is incredible medicine, that's true, but as many medicines, it has potential for abuse. Weed healed hepatitis E(if I remember correctly) on someone I know, it was weed drink, not smoked.

How does he know it was the marijuana that cured it? "Weed cured my hepatitis" is a bold claim to make.

I have to agree with all you said here my friend ...

I've smoked weed maybe 30 times in my life. I don't have anything against it, it's just not for me.

Three hits of "reggie" or 1 hit of "hydro" will have the following effects on me:

- Can't move or talk without expending extreme effort.
- Eyes feel like they're highly pressurized in a painful way.
- Head feels like there is a giant bee buzzing around in it continously.
- Can't concentrate for more than a few seconds.
- Feel like I can't respond to anything. (Took a few hits of reggie and ordered pizza once, and stood by the door because I was afraid I wouldn't get to the door in time when the pizza guy knocked and he'd leave with our pizza).

This will last for a few hours.

Then for the next 10 to 20 hours, I'll feel lethargic, and have almost no ability to focus on anything.

Everyone I tell this too says "Well smoke more and you'll get over those affects".... WTF would I want to subject myself to them continously to "get over" them... I've never had a good experience with weed at all, it's an expensive habit to those I see do it, and it's the primary reason for getting caught with more illegal stuff (leaving a pipe out, or the smell giving probable cause for a search).

Weed is just stupid to me... again, nothing against those who like it, or it as a plant, but it causes more problems than it solves (until it becomes legal that is).

Well he was in very bad condition knowing he had HEP E, and after the cannabis drink he was in good condition, that's what he claimed. Stupid to lie about it I think...

Yep, same here. I love mushies and cid, but can't do weed. If I didn't have a job that relied on sharp, fast memory recall, maybe I would enjoy it more. Psychs stimulates a deeper understanding of everything, and ability to think on many more levels than I normally do, weed is the exact opposite.

I'll still take a puff on occasion with friends, but it leaves my brain foggy and body sluggish for at least a day. The high is not pleasurable, either --just a heavy dulling effect. I do like the smell though.

The only positive thing I've found with weed is it enhances sex due to increased skin sensitivity, and cancels out all thoughts except what is going on at the moment. For some reason it makes girls scream a LOT louder, which is a definite turn-on.

(Not about the Hep E thing, my comment was directed to OP. hehe)

I want to be clear with everyone here. I stopped smoking weed many years ago; however, each person has his reasons for wanting to use it weather it be medicinal, just to relax, to enhance sex, to "expand one's mind", or what ever. I am all for it as long as you you take care of your life and those around you whom you are responsible for (like kids, girlfriend/boyfriends/wives/husbands etc). It should be legal 100% in my opinion. I have held this opinion from the time I first smoked which was around 1974. I am of the opinion that all of our drug laws governing their personal use and possession worldwide should be abolished.

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Totally agree. A major side effect seems to be that it makes people long winded... at least that's how it works with daily smokers I know. *sigh* That worked in McKenna's favor, though.

I never said smoking weed all day was gonna save you from illness.

"I quit smoking pot alltogether for 6 months and changed things in my life and started to heal."

You see, it was you, not the pot. I also never said medical use, I don't wanna have to get high for 'medical use', I wanna be able to get high for the simple fact that I want to, as a recreational activity. And if your saying that smoking weed had anything to do with helping you change your diet, then that's still you my friend, not the drug. I smoke all day, and while I use to max out, I have learned to eat properly while still being blazed all day.. But that's just my choice because I love weed that much to make the effort and you don't so that's okay. I certainly don't need it to make it through my day, nor do I think I won't be sick because of smoking it. I have quit before for months at a time for probation.

Now I'm not saying that smoking weed 2-3 times a day will keep you from being sick... I'm saying smoking 2-3 times a day, is not that unhealthy. Period. If you are experiencing negativity in your life, it is not the weed, it is you that is causing it.. You say you made some changes in your life, obviously your spirit was sick.. You imply that weed is the culprit for this and that it is a crutch? Maybe blaming weed is your crutch for not blaming yourself?

And also, while I don't think smoking 2-3 times a day will keep you from being sick, I still smoke that much because I want to, because it's fun. Period. And it does not effect my life negatively, it enhances it, because I'm a fuckin master of my spirit.. For real.

I do think weed can help people from being sick... But not by smoking everyday. You got the two notions mixed together. I think weed can effectively show many people a happiness and mindset that they are not able to easily find in life or themselves.. When someone smokes weed, it changes their life... Most of you know the drill... People can remember that for the rest of their lives... If I could never smoke weed again I would still be the happiest motherfucker ever in part because of some things that weed has helped me learn.. Which is how to be happy with myself, how to enjoy myself, the world, my friends, how to laugh.. How to have faith.. Helped teach me love believe it or not.. And I'm pretty sure that all those things happen to many people that have smoked weed through ought the years, and having that mind set and that reminder of how simple it is to be that happy, of how wonderful life is, is definitely a characteristic of a healthy individual.

Obviously one can never have a perfect life, the external world is not perfect, so even if your inner landscape is pure you still have troubles to deal with from time to time, and even the most good hearted person slips up from time to time as well, so I think a cold once or twice a year for the rest of my life... If that.. Is rather mild compared to some of the things other people have to go through in this world... Because anything negative is a result of the spirit. Period. That means that my two colds are not the result of my smoking all day every day, but because of personal issues. That's why smoking is not unhealthy... Unless you have personal issues which you are covering up or blaming on smoking.. Then it may seem like the weed itself is a personal issue and unhealthy but it is not. You feel me? We all have personal issues from time to time, like I said, no one is perfect. We all get colds, whether you smoke or not.

Who knows how much of a headcase I would end up if I had never smoked weed... Just from older people I've met that aren't into or never were, and you can tell they've lost the love for life or never had it... Stuck at mindless repetitive jobs, watched tv every night their whole lives... Merely reflecting the world around them.. Over weight and oddly shaped... Bleh.. I think most of you can feel me..

I used to be a huge pothead... smoked all day every day, then one day for some reason I just stopped (after about 5 or 6 years of smoking) for no real reason other than I just wasn't enjoying it any more... and then after about 5 years of not smoking, I one reason, about 2 weeks ago, started smoking every day... I dunno why, all of a sudden I'm back in love with it... but it's a bad thing... I've lost all motivation almost overnight