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Ododidit
#1 Posted : 9/4/2011 1:50:27 PM
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Hi all,


First off all i would like to say, WoW this forum as a lot of interesting data to get through, anyways to my questions.

SWIM have been reading on DMT experiences for a few years now and has just purchased 1g of Caapi Copy and 50g of Mimosa, SWIM has never used either of these before and wondered what would be the best method for reduced purging? i believe the caapi copy would be fine on its own as this is an extract (Correct me if i am wrong please) but what method of ingesting the mimosa would you recommend? (SWIM wants to start REAL mellow and work up slowly with the light)

Also would it be a good idea for SWIM to take 200mg Caapi copy on it's own first and what would this experience be like?

And sorry but one more question i can't find the answer too, does caapi keep you awake, would SWIM be able to do this on a week days when he has work the next day? Caapi on it's own that is.

Thanks all Wink

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endlessness
#2 Posted : 9/4/2011 2:03:06 PM

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Welcome to the Nexus!

Regarding caapi copy, if you're buying from FV, I would suggest next time you dont and that you extract your own or get from another more trustable supplier. We have a whole subforum dedicated to one very bad case of FV selling a product that wasnt what they advertised: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...t.aspx?g=topics&f=67

In any case around 200mg of harmala alkaloids should be enough for MAO inhibition. You could take some on its own, then you also get the feeling of how harmalas are, and then when you add the mimosa you can notice what is harmala and what is dmt. Is this your first time working with dmt/harmalas in general? The mimosa dosage should be around 3g for your first time, definitely dont go over 5g (and even that might be too much). Is your mimosa powdered? If not, break it up and put in the blender, and have it as fine as possible. Then boil it in water for some 20 minutes, filter or decant the water away from the solids, add more water, do this for a total of 3x, put the liquid together and discard solids, and then reduce the liquid to manageable amount (maybe around 70ml a dose?).

You can add the harmala to this brew and take it all together, or you can take the harmalas 20 mins before. Some people think its more effective together, others like to take them separate, but any way you do it should be fine. Dont forget to let us know how it went Smile

Caapi doesnt really keep you awake, dmt would though at least for 3-4 hours after you take. Harmalas are a bit sedative. If its just harmalas, I think its no problem to take it if next day you will work, but I wouldnt do this if you add mimosa because you might have a very strong experience. Think of it like going on a far away trip, you dont want to come back and go working straight after, you need at least a day to chill, integrate the experience, etc
 
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#3 Posted : 9/4/2011 2:50:12 PM
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HI Endlessness,

Thanks very much for the useful info, yes unfortunately swim did purchase the caapi copy from FV, would you advise against trying this at all or should swim give the cc a go?

Next time swim will buy the vine and extract.

This is indeed swims first time working with both harmala and dmt, the mimosa is unshredded/unpowered.

swim will definitely report on how things go, will be some point next week.

Again thanks for the tips

Odo
 
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#4 Posted : 9/16/2011 11:43:15 AM
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Hi all,

Well SWIM's materials have arrived, i have an additional question though, as a gift SWIM received 200mg harmine, would 200mg of harmine be pleasant on it's own and what kind of effects would be produced by this dose?
 
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#5 Posted : 9/16/2011 3:18:35 PM

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Yes, you would feel euphoric and spaced out.

100mg is enough to inhibit MAO. You can take 100mg of harmine with 100mg DMT orally for a journey of a lifetime.
 
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#6 Posted : 9/16/2011 5:52:51 PM
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Thanks for the quick response, Do you think 100mg would be sufficient for a first time as I wouldn't like to take too much, however I read that pure harmine is a lot less toxic although I cannot be sure this is pure, its says 95% pure harmine and is from the questionable FV, DMT will be added at a later date when I am comfortable with the effects of maoi Smile

Also SWIM has had nothing to eat all day apart from some toast in the morning, I assume this would meet the requirements of maoi diet?

Results will be posted tomorrow, Thanks again for responses Smile
 
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#7 Posted : 9/16/2011 5:58:11 PM

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Yes it is sufficient.

The MAOI diet does not apply to harmalas since they are RIMA [reverse inhibitors of monoamine oxidase]
I personally can eat anything in conjunction with harmalas and have never had a problem, but I tend to eat fairly well. The only thing you really have to watch out for is pharmaceuticals.
Eat normally, fast a few hours before your dose, eat something light after your dose, and enjoy the meditations.
 
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#8 Posted : 9/16/2011 6:08:24 PM
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Great, Report to follow :-)
 
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#9 Posted : 9/17/2011 9:07:56 AM
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Hi all,

Well, SWIM tried roughly 120-130mg of 95% harmine and it was subtle too subtle to be honest however after about the 1 hour mark SWIM started feeling pretty relaxed and put some ambient music on and felt rather warm and nice and proceeded to fall asleep for over an hour, all in it was very hard to notice anything apart from when SWIM was just about to fall asleep, is this normal for Harmine alone? (could be SWIM needs higher does of this?)

Phase 2: SWIM will be using 150-200mg Caapi Copy, Will the experience of this be simlar or different?
 
 
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