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Crystals sensitivty to heat and proper storage? Options
 
Psyren
#1 Posted : 8/12/2011 4:32:09 AM

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Had a little issue with some spice I had stored in tinfoil, it melted when i tried to take it for a car ride. No biggie i guess, ill just recrystalize.

Obviouslly the spice will melt if it gets to warm but do you guys have any tips or tricks to prevent this and or any techniques for storing or transporting.
Is the more yellow,waxy,oily spice prone to having this problem

Any advice would be much appreciated
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MelCat
#2 Posted : 8/12/2011 4:46:07 AM

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There are a couple of options that come to mind right off the top of my head.

For storage, especially in hot places, converting the spice to fumarates is the best option. They are very stable in this form but you've have to freebase them later if you want to smoke them.

Next best option is to infuse the spice to leaf. If you stick to a 1:1 ratio of spice:leaf then you can still accurately weigh your doses. If it's exposed to too much heat, some spice might melt out, but not nearly as bad as pure crystals.

If you infuse it to leaf, I suggest adding some harmalas to the mix for some changa.
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#3 Posted : 8/12/2011 5:09:40 AM

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Thanks Melodic, Hey can you quickly define the fumarate conversion. I did just do a quick search but... Is the conversion strictly for storage? Are you saying you cant smoke fumarate but would have to convert back?

Back do you guys store your spice in? (foil, glass vile, etc)
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MelCat
#4 Posted : 8/12/2011 5:38:07 AM

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DMT Fumarates are only for oral consumption until converted back to freebase. If you know your spice will be exposed to heat, especially for extended periods, then storing them as fumarates is the best option.

While it's possible to convert freebase to fumarates it's a lot easier to start off with fumarates during the extraction process.

Either way, it's roughly the same process.

You dissolve spice in either xylene or d-limonene and salt the goodies out with a fumaric acid saturated solution. If using xylene, you use Fumaric Acid Saturated Acteone (FASA). If using d-limo use Fumaric Acid Saturated IPA (FASI).

It's a little more in-depth but worth learning imo.

For more info check out the Fumaric Acid and Salt-precipitation fora. Also check out Jorkest's D-Limonene and Fumaric Acid Approach and the BLAB teks.

Information on converting the fumarates back to freebase is included in the BLAB tek and also in this thread and this thread.

As far as storage, I use little plastic containers that you would store beads in. A lot of people prefer glass or plastic vials. The great thing about glass is you don't have to worry about solvents to recollect any melted spice.

I don't believe foil is recommended because it speeds up the oxidation process but I could be mistaken. I don't remember where I heard that or I'd provide a source.

I hope this helps Smile
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#5 Posted : 8/13/2011 4:56:30 AM

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swim stores his in contact lens case 1 gram fits in each circle perfectly and if it melts ya just take a straw and poke it around
 
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#6 Posted : 8/13/2011 12:22:20 PM

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I keep mine in a little cheap glass caviar jar, in the freezer. If it melts (and it has), I freeze it again and periodically shake the shit out of it to re-break it up.
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